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<br><div><div>On May 5, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Pete Muir wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I know this thread, but I think it's worth correcting a misconception here.<br><br>On 26 Apr 2011, at 08:17, Remy Maucherat wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 13:49 +0200, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">You would rather have the server out of the box be TCK compliant<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">than usable for development ? I thought we were pass the mistakes<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">made in latest AS and EAP being targeted purely for production ?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The dev scenario I described using a marker (or the equivalent API call<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to trigger a redeploy) seems far more sustainable, even if it takes a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">bit more time (framework init, etc).<br></blockquote><br>Application developers do not care about sustainability. They care about turnaround and development time.<br><br>Operations guys care about sustainability.<br><br>This update-without-redeploy stuff is really important, and I've seen this misunderstanding before with concerns like "well the update will not always succeed" - in development this does not matter one bit. If it the update fails, you simply restart the AS and it starts working again.<br>_______________________________________________<br>jboss-as7-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org">jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>