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To scope or not to scope (domain.xml)
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reply from <a href="http://community.jboss.org/people/bstansberry%40jboss.com">Brian Stansberry</a> in <i>Management Development</i> - <a href="http://community.jboss.org/message/536361#536361">View the full discussion</a>
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<div class="jive-rendered-content"><blockquote class="jive-quote"><p>Scott Stark wrote:</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>I agree with those definitions. By the way, we need someone from the JON team to chime in on some of these discussions to ensure we are in sync with them.</p></blockquote><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>I've pinged Charles to let him know about these threads.</p><blockquote class="jive-quote">I don't see that a true multi-domain notion is in scope for this effort.</blockquote><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>Since we're in the mode of defining things, what is a "multi-domain notion?"  I see it as a an ability to manage within the same tool multiple sets of servers where each set has it's own management policy. The sets of servers are conceptually distinct (hence the separate management policy / domain) but, generally for operational ease of use reasons, users wish to manage multiple domains from the same tool.</p><blockquote class="jive-quote">In the base usage you are deploying to the domain, otherwise I have to have a cluster even if I just have a collection of non-clustered servers. I would think we do have profiles at the domain, cluster server group and server levels.</blockquote><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>The "server-group" notion is the collection of unclustered servers. So in the simple case of a domain that's a collection of a homogenous set of unclustered servers, we'd just be requiring a bit more XML.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>I can see having a capability to deploy to a domain as a convenience, but it can get conceptually messy.</p><blockquote class="jive-quote"><p>We need to keep a clear separation between configuration and provisioning.</p></blockquote><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>Agreed, but not sure what you were getting at here. Were we mixing them?</p></div>
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