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Re: Remoting Transport Transaction Inflow Design Discussion
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created by <a href="http://community.jboss.org/people/dmlloyd">David Lloyd</a> in <i>JBoss Transactions Development</i> - <a href="http://community.jboss.org/message/621467#621467">View the full discussion</a>
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<div class="jive-rendered-content"><blockquote class="jive-quote"><p>Mark Little wrote:</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><blockquote class="jive-quote"><p>David Lloyd wrote:</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>Finally "unacceptable to ship a solution that may require manual transaction cleanup" - you should know that any two-phase transaction system may require manual transaction cleanup; that's the nature of two-phase transactions.  You'll have to be more specific about the circumstances in which it is not acceptable to require manual cleanup.  I'm pretty sure that if someone unplugs the ethernet cable of the transaction coordinator after prepare but before commit, there's going to have to be some manual cleanup.</p></blockquote><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>So does this answer my question c) too? Are you saying that "any prepared but incomplete transactions have to be recovered manually" is only a reference to heuristic outcomes?</p></blockquote><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>Let me frame it in terms of the SPIs we're dealing with.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>If a transaction is prepared (XATerminator.prepare()) and then the connection is lost, then the transaction is "stuck" in the prepared state - we aren't going to do anything about that at the protocol level.  But presumably the transaction coordinator would be able to automatically recover once the resource was made available again, as the transaction isn't "busted", it's just not fully completed.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>If the same scenario exists but the commit was received and acted upon (but it failed), then I guess this is what you refer to as a heuristic outcome, and, well we're not going to deal with that either; presumably our recovery tooling will work exactly the same way in this case as it does in the case where the same thing happens to your database connection.</p></div>
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