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Re: Transactional MSC
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created by <a href="https://community.jboss.org/people/dmlloyd">David Lloyd</a> in <i>JBoss Transactions Development</i> - <a href="https://community.jboss.org/message/829502#829502">View the full discussion</a>
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<div class="jive-rendered-content"><blockquote class="jive-quote"><p>Paul Robinson wrote:</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>David,</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>My current thoughts are that we can get classloading to do most of the heavy-lifting here and prevent too-much disruption of the Narayana code-base. Are you able to take a look at the "Overview of the solution" section and let me know if you think I am heading in the right direction? I suspect the main problem would be that we are simplifying the development work at the cost of performance and memory footprint due to there being two TMs running.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>Thanks,</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>Paul.</p></blockquote><p>One thing I want to point out here is that a key use case of the new streamlined management system is making embedded use of the server infrastructure easier (and by easier I mean "humanly possible").  So assuming we prove out this idea, the class loading solution can never be more than temporary (else I'll have to hack up some kind of infrastructure to replicate modules, which could be quite ugly - and if effort is spent I'd rather it be done to improve a thing rather than add odd one-off hacks).</p></div>
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