[jboss-dev] Remoting 3.0

Mark Little mlittle at redhat.com
Thu Jun 21 05:27:18 EDT 2007


I think that's a good idea even if Remoting doesn't go down the EPR  
route. Probably a separate discussion though.

Mark.


On 21 Jun 2007, at 10:23, Heiko Braun wrote:

> Maybe we should externalize it into a jbossws-addressing.jar.
> Currently ESB and JBossWS are using different implementations of the
> same specs. With remoting it would be already three parties.
> IMHO it should become a subproject of either JBossWS or ESB and  
> publish
> jars to the repository for others to refer to.
>
> /Heiko
>
> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 08:20 +0100, Mark Little wrote:
>> Sure. In the 4.2 version of ESB we're using a version that is  
>> based on
>> the original WS-Addressing implementation we developed in Arjuna for
>> the Web Services transactions product back in 2004 and used for
>> interoperability testing with Microsoft, IBM etc. It's based on the
>> 2004 version of WS-A
>> (http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/specification/ws-add/)
>>
>>
>> We have a new version for the next major release of ESB based on the
>> 2006 release of WS-A (tested here
>> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/testsuite/), but the concepts are
>> pretty much the same (basically you lose ReferenceProperties).
>>
>>
>> This class is the one people are expected to develop endpoint
>> references (EPRs) against:
>>
>>
>> http://anonsvn.labs.jboss.com/labs/jbossesb/trunk/product/core/ 
>> rosetta/src/org/jboss/soa/esb/addressing/EPR.java
>>
>>
>> But this one is the one that does the real work:
>>
>> http://anonsvn.labs.jboss.com/labs/jbossesb/trunk/product/core/ 
>> rosetta/src/org/jboss/soa/esb/addressing/PortReference.java
>>
>>
>> BTW, URI would be fine too. EPRs are a superset.
>>
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 Jun 2007, at 19:08, Scott M Stark wrote:
>>
>>> We use both URLs and URIs in the vfs, but still rely on the URL
>>> handler
>>> mechanism for content. There needs to be some mechanism to obtain
>>> content streams and properties/attributes for the endpoint. We
>>> should
>>> have a common lib for either URIs or EPRs. Give a pointer to the EPR
>>> code in the ESB codebase.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Little wrote:
>>>> How about moving away from URLs to URIs or EPRs (WS-Addressing
>>>> Endpoint
>>>> References)? We use EPRs, which are basically URIs with some
>>>> additional
>>>> meta-data (which can be null if you want). URLs are ok and my
>>>> JBossESB
>>>> 5.0 prototype runs on current Remoting and does a mapping from EPR
>>>> down
>>>> to URL when it needs to, but they are pretty limiting. Plus URL
>>>> doesn't
>>>> support SFTP or FTPS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 19 Jun 2007, at 14:00, Bill Burke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The URL for JMS would look real ugly too.  New URL protocols are
>>>>> dangerous too as you may not be able to override the JDK's URL
>>>>> Handler
>>>>> (because it can only be set once!).  I ran into this problem
>>>>> with
>>>>> Tomcat 5.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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