[jboss-dev] hibernate 3.3.0 upgrade, slf4j introduction into jbossas

[David M. Lloyd]

Perhaps we ought to embrace the fact that there are a fuckton of logging 
frameworks out there.  Pick one for the actual logging implementation 
within JBossAS, and then provide compatibility facades for every single 
other one out there, along with instructions with how to use it.

It's not like it would be all that hard to do.  Hell, I'll do it myself. 
Assuming I don't get Brocked. :-)

- DML

On 05/02/2008 12:12 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> I cannot help that AS seems to think that every piece of technology 
> needs to be complete re-written in house.  Y'all have you're own logging 
> framework, great, add it to the other 50 out there.
> 
> The part that you are missing is that Hibernate is first and foremost a 
> standalone library.  And in terms of integration, I have to consider 
> integration with many containers.  I'm sure they all want jboss-logging 
> as the 'yet another logging api' in their environments as well.
> 
> I used to use commons-logging which had a very specific problem that 
> slf4j solves in a unique way *on any platform*...
> 
> If you recall, I asked about experiences using jboss-logging in 
> environments other than within JBoss AS and (in keeping with the general 
> theme of that thread) got no replies to the question asked: 
> http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/jboss-development/2007-July/010398.html
> 
> 
> On May 2, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Scott Stark wrote:
> 
>> And we said sure, introduce yet another logging api?
>>
>> Steve Ebersole wrote:
>>> I initiated that very discussion on this very list almost a year ago ;)
>>>
>>> On May 2, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Paul Gier wrote:
>>>
>>>> I upgraded this based on JBAS-5133 and Steve's request.  I can 
>>>> switch it back to the old version if that's what is needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scott Stark wrote:
>>>>> Why was hibernate updated to 3.3.0 in jbossas trunk, and why is 
>>>>> this pulling in yet another logging framework? This needs to be 
>>>>> reverted, and why there has to be yet another logging framework 
>>>>> dependency brought in explained.
>>>>> *** CONTEXTS IN ERROR: Name -> Error
>>>>> vfsfile:/media/disk/workspace/tck5/jboss-5.0.0.CR1/server/cts/tmp/jsr88/ejb3_annotations_entity_vehicles.ear 
>>>>> -> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/slf4j/LoggerFactory
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