[jboss-dev] Include Web Beans RI in next JBoss 5 release

[David M. Lloyd]

Yes: 5.0.x is a stable branch and should only get bug fixes.

By all means, integrate it into 5.1.  But if it were me running the 
project, I'd say, make sure that when it does get into the 5.x branch that 
it is stable (a GA release), as merging snapshots and betas and CRs at this 
stage will serve only to delay the release which is supposed to be on a 
fixed schedule now.

The point of my email really has nothing to do with Web Beans - I don't 
really know the status at all.  I was just trying to get Dimitris to be 
more assertive - he just seems so darn apologetic and polite all the time. :-)

I would take it even a step farther and say that Dimitris should have a 
fixed window during which people are allowed to merge new features into the 
5.x branch (which should be on a public calendar somewhere), to give plenty 
of time to get the release stable before doing the release.  But I guess 
he'll only put up with me telling him how to do his job for so long before 
telling me to get bent :)

- DML

On 01/15/2009 06:33 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
> Do you have a reasoned argument (other than a needing a quick power 
> trip) about why we should not be pushing new software that we develop 
> into JBoss AS (clearly marked as a technology preview), to allow early 
> access and increase the feedback we get?For example, EJB3 was optionally 
> included in JBoss 4.0.x.
> 
> Reading between the lines, I hope that this will address your concerns:
> 
> First, please see https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBAS-6371 - you can 
> see that I am suggesting 5.1 as the place to introduce WB.
> 
> Second, as I stated earlier (obviously not clearly enough) we built the 
> integration such that none of the WB libraries are included in the AS or 
> application classpath unless the deployment is a Web Beans deployment 
> (as marked by a {META-INF|WEB_INF}/web-beans.xml). Of course, this 
> doesn't apply to the WB deployers which deploy the app, and push the WB 
> libraries onto the app classpath. Thus, whether or not WB is stable, 
> shouldn't affect non-web-bean apps applied to the AS.
> 
> On 14 Jan 2009, at 22:11, David M. Lloyd wrote:
> 
>> Dimitris, you worded that wrong.  You should have said:
>>
>> "We are ABSOLUTELY NOT integrating Web Beans into 5.0.1.  But I will 
>> ALLOW you to merge a STABLE implementation into 5.1."
>>
>> Let them know who's boss. :-)
>>
>> - DML
>>
>> On 01/14/2009 04:03 PM, Dimitris Andreadis wrote:
>>> Shouldn't we leave the webbeans integration for 5.1? (Branch_5_x)
>>>
>>> 5.0.1 is a bug fixing release...
>>> Scott Stark wrote:
>>>> In going through the integration of the current webeans 1.0.0.Alpha1 
>>>> RI with the jbossas-5.0.0.GA release, the number guess example fails 
>>>> to deploy on startup with:
>>>>
>>>> Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>   at 
>>>> org.jboss.webbeans.integration.jbossas.ejb3.EjbDiscoveryEnvironment.lookup(EjbDiscoveryEnvironment.java:123) 
>>>>
>>>>   at 
>>>> org.jboss.webbeans.integration.jbossas.ejb3.EjbDiscoveryEnvironment.<init>(EjbDiscoveryEnvironment.java:41) 
>>>>
>>>>   at 
>>>> org.jboss.webbeans.integration.jbossas.WebBeanDiscoveryImpl.<init>(WebBeanDiscoveryImpl.java:25) 
>>>>
>>>>   ... 65 more
>>>> 10:30:59,909 INFO  [WebBeansBootstrap] Starting Web Beans RI 
>>>> 1.0.0.ALPHA1
>>>> 10:30:59,909 ERROR [[/webbeans-numberguess]] Exception sending 
>>>> context initialized event to listener instance of class 
>>>> org.jboss.webbeans.servlet.WebBeansListener
>>>>
>>>> So I guess we need to focus on web beans integration tests as well.
>>>>
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