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I don't want both as this just requires that only maven can be used to
get around having to update all derived artifacts (classpaths, docs,
wikis, installer, ...). I know Ruel said inclusion of the version in
the artifact was a big discussion item, but unless maven is your world
its just a pain in the ass as it propagates version info everywhere.<br>
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Ryan Campbell wrote:
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">We will want
both, correct? versionless
jars for non-maven, versioned for maven?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org">jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org">mailto:jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Scott M Stark<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday,
September 21, 2006
9:44 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Carlo de Wolf<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> JBoss.org
development list<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [JBoss-dev]
Re: Version
numbers in library filenames - Bad</span></font><font color="black"><span
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">It looks like the jarName can
be overriden. I'll see
if I can rebuild the jboss-common jars without the version as it will
require a
constant updating of the eclipse projects in jbossas since jbossas is
not build
using maven yet.<br>
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Carlo de Wolf wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">It is possible by specifying extra parameters with the goal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a
href="http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-jar-plugin/jar-mojo.html">http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-jar-plugin/jar-mojo.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">I don't have an example at hand.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Carlo<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 07:54 -0700, Scott M Stark wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">I agree, but this is the maven convention and as far as I know cannot be <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">undone short of hacking the jar plugin.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Dimitris Andreadis wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">I've seen a few cases where in repository.jboss.com the version number<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">for a library is included in the library filename,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">E.g.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">antlr-2.7.6.jar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">addressing-1.0.jar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">odmg-3.0.jar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">quartz-all-1.5.2.jar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">dtdparser121.jar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">commons-lang-2.1.jar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">myfaces-impl-1.1.3.jar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Even worse:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Cglib/2.1.0/lib/cglib.jar, cglib-2.1.1.jar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">This is wrong, because<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">- whenever a library is updated we have to correct all explicit<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">references to it<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">- If you don't wipe your thirdparty on every update you may end up with<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">3 different versions of the same library and wonder for hours what's<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">The version is encoded in the path and the library's<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">META-INF/MANIFEST.MF, not the filename, e.g:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">apache-logging/1.0.3/lib/commons-logging.jar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">For existing libs the harm is already done, but for new library<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">additions to repository.jboss.com, please have that in mind and remove<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">any version number from the filenames.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">/Dimitris<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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