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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well, removing the versioned jars will
break the maven builds depending on this module, such as security, with more to
come. Maven is expecting the jars to have the version info in them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:windowtext'> jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org
[mailto:jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Scott M Stark<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 21, 2006
10:28 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> JBoss.org development list<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [JBoss-dev] Re:
Version numbers in library filenames - Bad</span></font><font color=black><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I don't want both as this just requires that only
maven can be used to get around having to update all derived artifacts
(classpaths, docs, wikis, installer, ...). I know Ruel said inclusion of the
version in the artifact was a big discussion item, but unless maven is your
world its just a pain in the ass as it propagates version info everywhere.<br>
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Ryan Campbell wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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non-maven, versioned for maven?<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org">jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Scott M Stark<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 21, 2006
9:44 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Carlo de Wolf<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> JBoss.org development list<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [JBoss-dev] Re: Version
numbers in library filenames - Bad</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>It looks like the jarName can be overriden. I'll see
if I can rebuild the jboss-common jars without the version as it will require a
constant updating of the eclipse projects in jbossas since jbossas is not build
using maven yet.<br>
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Carlo de Wolf wrote: <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>It is possible by specifying extra parameters with the goal.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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href="http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-jar-plugin/jar-mojo.html">http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-jar-plugin/jar-mojo.html</a><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I don't have an example at hand.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Carlo<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 07:54 -0700, Scott M Stark wrote:<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I agree, but this is the maven convention and as far as I know cannot be <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>undone short of hacking the jar plugin.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dimitris Andreadis wrote:<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I've seen a few cases where in repository.jboss.com the version number<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>for a library is included in the library filename,<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>E.g.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>antlr-2.7.6.jar<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>addressing-1.0.jar<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>odmg-3.0.jar<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>quartz-all-1.5.2.jar<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>dtdparser121.jar<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>commons-lang-2.1.jar<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>myfaces-impl-1.1.3.jar<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Even worse:<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Cglib/2.1.0/lib/cglib.jar, cglib-2.1.1.jar<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>This is wrong, because<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- whenever a library is updated we have to correct all explicit<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>references to it<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- If you don't wipe your thirdparty on every update you may end up with<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>3 different versions of the same library and wonder for hours what's<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>wrong.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The version is encoded in the path and the library's<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>META-INF/MANIFEST.MF, not the filename, e.g:<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>apache-logging/1.0.3/lib/commons-logging.jar<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u5:p> </u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>For existing libs the harm is already done, but for new library<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>additions to repository.jboss.com, please have that in mind and remove<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>any version number from the filenames.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>/Dimitris<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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