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Why don't we have Patrick McDonald drive that monthly review? This seems to fit into his role quite well.<BR>
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Andy<BR>
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On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 12:31 -0500, Dimitris Andreadis wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Absence of a component could be avoided if we could remove this option</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">from the user that enters the report (so there is somebody assigned to</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">it, even if it is the wrong person) but it doesn't seem possible in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">JIRA.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I don't think it is bad to have unscheduled reports, as long as there is</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">periodic review to schedule tasks. It is equally bad to use the next</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">release as a dumping ground and move around deferred tasks from release</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">to release.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I totally agree proper/periodic review is needed to categorize the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">importance of tasks. There was a proposal by Andrig to do this monthly</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">but we didn't follow up properly.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> From: <A HREF="mailto:jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org">jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org</A> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> [mailto:<A HREF="mailto:jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org">jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org</A>] On Behalf </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Of Adrian Brock</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 5:56 PM</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> To: jboss-development</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Subject: [JBoss-dev] House keeping in JIRA - bug reports</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Until JBoss-4.0.4 I made a regular check of JIRA using two </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> queries. After that release as an experiment I stopped doing </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> it to see what kind of state we would be in by the 4.0.5 release.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Bugs without fix versions:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> <A HREF="http://jira.jboss.com/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hid">http://jira.jboss.com/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hid</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> e&requestId=12310183</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> All bugs should either be</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> * assigned to the currently being worked on release</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> * deferred to a later release</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> * closed as not bugs or incomplete description</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Bugs should never be left unscheduled.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Bugs without components:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> <A HREF="http://jira.jboss.com/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hid">http://jira.jboss.com/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hid</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> e&requestId=12310202</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Which probably means that nobody has even looked at them.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> It is very important that for each release we have analysed </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> all bugs and decided their importance.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> 61 bugs that are not scheduled (i.e. importance undetermined)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> 11 bugs without components (not even validated at the most </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> basic level)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> is not good!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Just choosing one at random (the oldest one with "affects </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> 4.0.4") falls into both categories. There is no evidence it </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> was ever looked at:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> <A HREF="http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBAS-3406">http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBAS-3406</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> It was raised on the 20th of July (over two months ago).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Obviously, the user doesn't consider a MalformedObjectName </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> exception as telling him the format is invalid nor has he </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> read the javadoc for that class which links him to valid </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> query formats. :-)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> So this is obviously a trival "user friendly" bug where an </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> invalid name should forward to a page explaining the </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ObjectName format.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> --</FONT>
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