<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Sure, but in reality, would this be the 'final', only renamed as something else (EJB 2.99?) to get around the licensing issue?<BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>--</DIV><DIV>Manik Surtani</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Lead, JBoss Cache</DIV><DIV>JBoss, a division of Red Hat</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Email: <A href="mailto:manik@jboss.org">manik@jboss.org</A></DIV><DIV>Telephone: +44 7786 702 706</DIV><DIV>MSN: <A href="mailto:manik@surtani.org">manik@surtani.org</A></DIV><DIV>Yahoo/AIM/Skype: maniksurtani</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 30 Nov 2006, at 17:28, Andrig T Miller wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> No, it does not, just a supportable release. We actually cannot call our EJB 3 final in AS 4.2, due to the licensing issues. The only final will be in AS 5.<BR> <BR> Andy<BR> <BR> On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 18:05 -0600, Galder Zamarreno wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE type="CITE"> <FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000080">Does this mean there’ll be a final EJB3 release for AS 4.2?</FONT></FONT><BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="CITE"> <FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000080">Galder Zamarreño</FONT></FONT><BR> <FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000080">Sr. Software Maintenance Engineer</FONT></FONT><BR> <FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000080">JBoss, a division of Red Hat</FONT></FONT><BR> <BR> <FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000080">IT executives: Red Hat still #1 for value <A href="http://www.redhat.com/promo/vendor/">http://www.redhat.com/promo/vendor/</A></FONT></FONT><FONT color="#000080"> </FONT><BR> <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="CITE"> <DIV align="center"> <HR size="3"> </DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="CITE"> <B><FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">From:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color="#000000"><FONT size="2">jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org [<A href="mailto:jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org">mailto:jboss-development-bounces@lists.jboss.org</A>] </FONT></FONT><FONT color="#000000"><B><FONT size="2">On Behalf Of </FONT></B></FONT><FONT color="#000000"><FONT size="2">Andrig T Miller</FONT></FONT><BR> <B><FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">Sent:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color="#000000"><FONT size="2"> 29 November 2006 23:05</FONT></FONT><BR> <B><FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">To:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color="#000000"><FONT size="2"> Scott M Stark</FONT></FONT><BR> <B><FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">Cc:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color="#000000"><FONT size="2"> Scott M Stark; JBoss.org development list; JavaEE-TCK; Ivelin Ivanov</FONT></FONT><BR> <B><FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">Subject:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color="#000000"><FONT size="2"> [jboss-dev] Re: Fwd: AS 5 Beta 2 Discussion</FONT></FONT><BR> <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="CITE"> <FONT color="#000000"> </FONT><BR> <BR> <FONT color="#000000">I agree. In fact, we specifically created 4.2 for these types of issues. With the inclusion of EJB 3 in 4.2 as fully supported technology, we should make this as clean as possible.</FONT><BR> <BR> <FONT color="#000000">Andy</FONT><BR> <BR> <FONT color="#000000">On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 11:11 -0800, Scott M Stark wrote: </FONT><BR> <BR> <PRE><FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000"> </FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">Yes, its work to align the remoting uses. This has to be done for</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">jboss5, and ejb3 pulls this issue into 4.2. I don't see keeping the</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">legacy remoting layers as default as beneficial for 4.2.</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000"> </FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">Tom Elrod wrote:</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">>> 2. A related issue is alignment on jboss-remoting transports. There was</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">>> a jira issue to make the pooled invoker the default. The real question</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">>> is why don't we move to the unified invoker based on remoting to align</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">>> the transports between 4.2/5/ejb3.</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">></FONT></FONT><FONT color="#000000"> </FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">> I was thinking the main reason we didn't switch to using unified</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">> invokers for 4.x was due to needing to update docs and training</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">> materials (since config would be completely different). However, if</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">> this is not an issue and would prefer to switch default to be unified</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">> invoker for 4.2, the change to standardjboss.xml, jboss-service.xml,</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">> and cluster-service.xml is simple (but still have the issue of where</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">> else needs to be changed, such as client user tx, testsuite, jmx</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000">> invoker, etc.).</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#000000"> </FONT></FONT>
</PRE> <TABLE cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"> <TBODY><TR><TD> Andrig (Andy) Miller<BR> VP, Engineering<BR> JBoss, a division of Red Hat <BR> <BR> <BR> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <BR> <FONT color="#000000"> </FONT><BR> <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <TABLE cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"> <TBODY><TR><TD> Andrig (Andy) Miller<BR> VP, Engineering<BR> JBoss, a division of Red Hat </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>