[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Oracle ADF

[lowecg2004]

Gavin,

Yes a good advert for "don't drink and drive" ;)  Apology accepted.

As stated in my post, it was only speculation and I was clearly wrong.  While my assumption now appears rather naive (and, yes, I feel suitably embarrassed) please appreciate that many us on the forum are not yet well versed in the subtleties of AOP and classloading. In my class cast example I was able to bind to a regular managed bean but not via a Seam binding "because Seam used a different classloading mechanism to get the underlying class". Surely this IS quite subtle from a regular Seam programmers pov?  Is this something that could be cleared up in the Seam reference, say introduce a section from a "Seam and the JEE environment" interaction perspective?

I would have taken the time to acquaint myself with the subtleties of JEE classloading but having read that documentation you'll know that stuff is not exactly 'light' reading hence my polite request for direction to the required material.  RTFM is often a fair response but when the 'M' is something as big and vague as the JEE spec then some direction would be appreciated.

I agree with you that preprender does not work under Seam.  I personally DO NOT want to be dealing with the raw JSF component instances.  But let's face it, there will be a lot of people migrating to Seam from JSC who are used to having exactly that sort of experience of JSF programming.  I only got onto to this because of the way in which the  Trinidad built-in table selections work.  Again, maybe something in the Seam reference could 'educate' people who may be used to other JSF programming models?

Anyway please accept my apologies if I upset you.  I really appreciate the help you are giving myself and others on this forum. I will refrain from speculation from now on and I will now go away to read up on classloading and try to understand what's going on.

Best Regards,

Chris.

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