[jboss-user] [EJB 3.0] - Re: Ejb3 sources in zipped form

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"ALRubinger" wrote : 
  | You can't override logical arguments with preference. :)
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Version madnes is my argument and I describe my way to improve/balance this situation ;) (from experience with work on granular libraries).

"ALRubinger" wrote : 
  | AS is an integration technology.  To extend your view on a unified version number between the composite and all components would impose that Hibernate, AOP, MC, EJB3, Transactions, etc all have the same version number.  And that imposes that they all have the same release schedule.
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  | In truth AS brings in components to form the whole.  Each project is independently managed.
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Please don't generalise. There are projects as like whole EJB3, dont libraries. 

Indeed eg Hibernate have 4 subprojects (core, annotations, em, validator) but on link http://repository.jboss.org/maven2/org/jboss/ejb3/ there is 22 libraries ;)

In definition I would separate projects from libraries. Project has separate vesioning and release schedule but library not necessary.

You say maven releases will have independent releases - ok, so I think there should be additional release as zipped whole binary because it is project not library. Why EJB3 doesn't release zipped distribution like JBossWS, JBossAS, JBM (there is secret installer) ? We are in Linux World and Linux Users don't like when something try hide details. I'm not pro shell scripts but ejb3-installer imho should be in zipped distro and operates on files in this zip. Now I guess it downloads jars from maven repo ?

So my proposition to EJB3 binaries is zip (which always can be unpack) with structure:

ejb3-installer.jar
ejb3-installer-sources.jar (shell script can be read to see what to do, so sources installer are needed)
other jars of EJB3 without sources

I suspect you are maven fan and it is main reason to using automagic installer. I'm not so (I have many trouble with unpredicatble maven dependencies). When you download whole distribution there is closed space and you see what you get. With maven this space of dependecies are open and very fast grow (to 1GB maven repo) and I have many class conflicts because I dont see which library is using. Predicable closed dependencies is my prefered way to configure project and it is main reason I ask if there is enable one whole binary of EJB3. So user is not forced to maven when using EJB3.

Little digression and other question: What is way to get dependency to ejb3 in my maven project. I will have to list all libraries explicite, all 22 libraries ?

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