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created by <a href="http://community.jboss.org/people/leon_">leon_</a> in <i>jBPM</i> - <a href="http://community.jboss.org/message/606758#606758">View the full discussion</a>
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<div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Hi all,</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>First off, I want to applaud all efforts that are being put into the creation and optimization of jBPM. Working with business rules and various rule-engines I find jBPM (or Drools for that matter) a real nice OpenSource effort that easily competes with most commercial platforms.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>On the bad side I found it a technical platform here and there and I hope the community and the developers place some emphasis on the UI for business engineers/domain specialists as well as the UI for end-users. I do note the great improvements jBPM has made e.g. coming from version 3.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>As I feel I have explorerd every possible way to create forms for the end user (the jBPM-console, Tohu etc.) I am very curious how most of you create forms. Do you use ftl, or have you created a specific webservice on top of jBPM? And if so, how did you connect with the jBPM API? I find it difficult to work with parameter passing as I have no clear view how and where they are managed in the various jBPM examples. When looking at these examples I often see simple programs, using mainly or only HTML for example. I also wonder if, how and why Tohu "died".</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>So if any of you have found a way to easily build forms and interact with the end-user in a user-friendly way, that is also easy to create and maintain by business minded people, instead of more technical knowledgeable individuals, please let me know!</p><p>I read a post that a wiki entry would be opened to share such experiences, but I have not found this wiki page, hence my post!</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"> </p><p>Regards,</p><p>Leon</p></div>
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