<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><br><div><div>On 16 Sep 2014, at 00:27, Max Rydahl Andersen <<a href="mailto:max.andersen@redhat.com">max.andersen@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">On 9 Sep 2014, at 16:07, Rafael Benevides wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">We also need to check that with JBDS, because it's odd that stacks only<br>uses "redhat-techpreview-all-repository" as additional repository.<br></blockquote><br>because it was the only thing we needed originally.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Max/Fred,<br><br>Is there any issues having<br><a href="https://maven.repository.redhat.com/earlyaccess/all/">https://maven.repository.redhat.com/earlyaccess/all/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>as declared inside<br>quickstarts pom.xml ?<br></blockquote><br>sorry - but I need to grok when earlyaccess/all is even needed before answering that ? :)<br><br>My default position would be that if you need earlyaccess you are expected to be able to understand why you need it.<br><br>But i'm not sure if that is true anymore - hence wanting to ask why/when earlyaccess is ever needed ?<br>is it for running quickstarts targeting a beta version of EAP ? (meaning no snapshots, but actual all releases in it?)<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Right, it’s where we put beta and alpha releases.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br>If yes, why doesn't /all get split up in /supported and /earlyaccess and /all will serve the combined result ?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Propose this on the wolf list?</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br>Meaning we remove the need to have two different repos always handed around but allow those who want the separation to just use /supported if need be.<br><br>i.e. do what maven normally does (use version numbers to separate things) and stop having it be a complex setup for the default case ?<br><br>/max<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Em 9/9/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu:<br><blockquote type="cite">On 9 Sep 2014, at 13:06, Marek Novotny <<a href="mailto:mnovotny@redhat.com">mnovotny@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On 9.9.2014 13:56, Pete Muir wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">On 9 Sep 2014, at 12:54, Marek Novotny <<a href="mailto:mnovotny@redhat.com">mnovotny@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On 9.9.2014 13:00, Pete Muir wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">On 9 Sep 2014, at 11:35, Marek Novotny <<a href="mailto:mnovotny@redhat.com">mnovotny@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On 8.9.2014 18:48, Pete Muir wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">QSTools ticket: <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-762">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-762</a><br><br>But after placing <a href="http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/">http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/</a> at the Quickstarts, I realized that we won't solve the user experience issues without adding - <a href="https://maven.repository.redhat.com//">https://maven.repository.redhat.com//</a> and<br>- <a href="http://jboss-developer.github.io/temp-maven-repo/">http://jboss-developer.github.io/temp-maven-repo/</a> also<br>for the -develop branch.<br></blockquote></blockquote>I’m not sure we need to worry about people using the -develop branch. This is for contributors only, and they can read the instructions normally.<br></blockquote></blockquote>So I assume that we need to inject <a href="http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/">http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/</a> in pom.xml and make them to add the others in settings.xml<br></blockquote></blockquote>Well, we may want to add earlyaccess too. WDYT?<br><br></blockquote>Why we should have it there for end users? earlyaccess repository is<br>just exceptional resource for public Betas, isn't it? Isn't that<br>confusing to have it there even for traditional GA releases?<br></blockquote>OTOH this is not really the way Maven works. In Maven you tend to mix up all releases, and use version numbers to control what gets pulled in.<br></blockquote>Even I agree with your statement, do we have a clean description there<br>what could end users understand why we have a bunch or repositories<br>there instead of one? We declared today that you can use our product<br>maven repository (online techpreview/all or offline zipped repository)<br>plus Central and then in Quickstarts we use "another" repository.<br><br>I agree that injected repository will help to an end user, but wouldn't<br>it be simple just as one repository?<br><br>you can easily manage versions in BOM imports etc. but for the learning<br>purpose it can be confusing. WDYT?<br></blockquote>Hmm. People are used to adding a second repo for snapshots, which is kinda similar.<br><br></blockquote>What are our target group of developers for quicksktarts? Newbies or<br>experienced devs?<br><br>I may see it more like short and simple bootstrap for newbies, but your<br>view is probably different.<br></blockquote>Agreed on newbies. Hence why we don’t want to make people add/remove repos, but have a sensible default configured for them.<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Marek Novotny<br>--<br>WFK and Seam Product Lead<br><br>Red Hat Czech s.r.o.<br>Purkynova 99<br>612 45 Brno<br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>jbossdeveloper mailing list<br><a href="mailto:jbossdeveloper@lists.jboss.org">jbossdeveloper@lists.jboss.org</a><br>https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper<br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>jbossdeveloper mailing list<br><a href="mailto:jbossdeveloper@lists.jboss.org">jbossdeveloper@lists.jboss.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper</a><br></blockquote><br><br>/max<br><a href="http://about.me/maxandersen">http://about.me/maxandersen</a></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>