[jbosstools-dev] SSH deployer: Something interesting I've been working on

[Rob Stryker]

Using RSE, from what I can see, would require adding the RSE runtime to 
our build, which would add another 4-5 meg of requirements and 'bloat'.

Also, to have a 'server' to publish to, from what I can see, all you 
really need to be able to do is be able to make directories, copy 
folders into them, and delete files and folders. Using raw JSCH seems to 
allow me to do that very easily. But I wonder if maybe my use case list 
is too narrow and there's things I'd be missing out on.

It seems most of the benefit of RSE is gained by using this remote 
connection to hold your projects, files, etc, almost as a remote 
workspace. According to a blog post, the benefits of RSE are:

/RSE is a framework and toolkit in Eclipse Workbench, that allows you to 
connect and work with a variety of remote systems, including
/

    * /remote file systems through SSH, FTP or dstore agents (seamless
      editing of remote files including remote search and compare),/
    * /remote shell access (compiling with error navigation),/
    * /remote process handling through dstore agents,/
    * /and remote debugging through CDT / gdb./

I'm not sure any of these are requirements for a server to publish to.

Max, any thoughts?

On 11/02/2009 05:44 PM, Snjezana Peco wrote:
> I have set RSE SSH server using Galileo SR1 without any issue.
> RSE uses the Eclipse File System (EFS) - see http://wiki.eclipse.org/EFS
> and
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/EFS#Remote_System_Explorer_.28SSH.2C_FTP.2C_dstore.29
> It is the same API that is used for the Eclipse local file system.  The
> same API can be used to add a local deployment, SSH , FTP, Eclipse
> dstore or some deployment using a server contributed to RSE.
> Maybe JSCH is simpler, but RSE gives us more functionalities.
>
> Snjeza
>
> Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>    
>> I looked at that once long time ago (M6 of Galileo) and it was very
>> weird to me - but they might have fixed that stuff
>> so I would need to look at it again.
>>
>> Rob - did you try it ?
>>
>> About your initial mail, then I don't think this should be a different
>> server *type*, shouldn't it just be an option
>> on a server to what way they wish to start/stop/deploy to it ?
>>
>> /max
>>
>>
>>      
>>> Have you tried Target Management (Remote Server Explorer) included in
>>> Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers? Among other things, RSH contains SSH
>>> Services. SSH Services API provides deploying an exploded/unexploded
>>> archive to an SSH server like deploying to the local file system. See
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm or open the RSE perspective in Eclipse
>>> IDE for Java EE Developers and try to add a new connection.
>>>
>>> Snjeza
>>>
>>> Rob Stryker wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> (This may not be of interest to everyone, but just thought I'd share it.
>>>> Also seeking ideas)
>>>>
>>>> So I spent the better part of this week working on refining some of the
>>>> as-tools deployment api's and trying not to break anything (or if you
>>>> know me at all, purposely breaking things). I made a new plugin to hold
>>>> what is effectively an ssh deploy-only server. There's pretty much no UI
>>>> right now and everything's hard-coded, but I've gotten my first ssh
>>>> deployment working. ;)
>>>>
>>>> None of this is in svn yet, but the one use-case I've gotten covered and
>>>> working is a zipped wtp-type project. So any project, a web project, ear
>>>> project, bpel / esb project, if the server has a property set to force
>>>> zipping of deployments, can now be deployed over ssh to some box that
>>>> you control.
>>>>
>>>> Again, it's not in svn yet, and the UI is horrendous (read: not made at
>>>> all really) but the underlying APIs are there and I'll work on refining
>>>> it tomorrow to squeeze it into svn in some non-disgusting fashion.
>>>>
>>>> ** I was wondering if anyone had any good suggestions or what types of
>>>> settings you'd need for this type of server other than just host,
>>>> username, password, and hosts file. What type of functionality would you
>>>> want the server to provide you with if you were going to be deploying
>>>> remotely repeatedly?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
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