[jbosstools-dev] Eclipse target platform features

Lucia Jelinkova ljelinko at redhat.com
Fri Jan 13 09:57:05 EST 2012 

Hi Max, 

to clarify if something is missing, I've decided to install Portlet tools using clean Eclipse Indigo SR1 (for Java developers). I've used the http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/development/indigo/ update site. Then I've tried to create a New Dynamic Web Project with Java Portlet facet enabled - and it failed with the same errors as the tests. 

Do we support installation of JBT on Eclipse for Java developers? If not, then I understand that I need to specify the JEE features and plugins in tests by myself. But this constraint should be also mentioned on the update site:

http://www.jboss.org/tools/download/dev

Regards, 

Lucia

----- Original Message -----
> >>> 
> >>> Sorry, I've forgotten to mention that I am developing SWTBot
> >>> tests.
> >>> However, I still think that the UI test should basically
> >>> reference
> >>> just the feature under the test and not features like
> >>> org.eclipse.jst.enterprise_ui.feature.feature.group or
> >>> org.eclipse.jst.web_core.feature.feature.group.
> >> 
> >> This is a wrong assumption :) How do you expect Tycho to figure
> >> out
> >> the proper dependency set if there are no dependencies to it ?
> > 
> > Of course Tycho cannot handle dependencies that are not defined -
> > my assumption however is that if there is a plugin and the plugin
> > cannot successfully be executed without some dependencies, the
> > plugin should define those dependencies. In my case - I am testing
> > portlets in JBT, so I would suppose that either the portlet
> > feature or some feature imported from that feature should
> > reference the Eclipse JEE features if it cannot run without them.
> 
> Yes, and you/dev should figure out if that is the case!
> 
> If no tests found it before then it is either because Yes, this
> plugin should be listed explicitly OR No, this plugin is implicit
> and optional and thus something tests would need to do it.
> 
> > So my question is, would it be a good idea to add previously
> > mentioned features from Eclipse JEE to the JBT plugin that
> > actually needs it and thus explicitly express the dependency?
> 
> Which features specifically ? The epp and ide ones does not make
> sense since they are eclipse product features AFAIK.
> 
> /max
> 
> > 
> >> 
> >> What is missing is a way to tell Tycho to use "everything" from
> >> the
> >> target platform but that will also not always be what you want.
> >> 
> >> I've seen musings on tycho-dev/user on this problem but I haven't
> >> followed through to see what options there is.
> >> 
> >>>> And the resulting target platform was different from the
> >>>> installation the user would have if he / she downloaded Eclipse
> >>>> and installed JBT to it. That's why I thought that referencing
> >>>> *.platform.ide feature and the jee feature would solve this
> >>>> issue.
> >>> 
> >>>> No, those are at the wrong level. They are the "product"
> >>>> definitions from eclipse epp packages.
> >>> 
> >>> So do you think it not an issue that the target platform where
> >>> the
> >>> SWTBot tests run is not the "normal" Eclipse platform?
> >> 
> >> Depends what your test does.
> >> 
> >> But yes, I would like to find a way to tell Tycho to *build*
> >> against
> >> this target platform (which is 'everything') and then
> >> run tests against a set of different target platforms. (i.e. JBDS
> >> 5,
> >> Eclipse Java EE EPP 3.7 and 3.7.1)
> >> 
> >> But I don't know if that is possible yet - it would be really
> >> useful
> >> though.
> >> 
> >> Maybe raise this question on tycho mailing list to hear how others
> >> solves this if anything ?
> > 
> > Yes, that is a good advice, thank you.
> > 
> >> 
> >> /max
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>>> /max
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Lucia
> >>>> 
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt at redhat.com>
> >>>> To: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen at redhat.com>
> >>>> Cc: "Lucia Jelinkova" <ljelinko at redhat.com>,
> >>>> jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:00:42 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Eclipse target platform features
> >>>> 
> >>>> Just realized this is the public jbosstools-dev list, not the
> >>>> internal
> >>>> JBDS one. So... if you're not behind the VPN, you can't access
> >>>> that site.
> >>>> 
> >>>> You can however see the same bits here, if you point Eclipse or
> >>>> JBDS at it:
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://devstudio.jboss.com/updates/5.0.0/5.0.0.M5.target-platform/
> >>>> 
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Nick
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 01/12/2012 12:58 PM, Nick Boldt wrote:
> >>>>> In addition to the JBT Target Platform site, there's also the
> >>>>> JBDS
> >>>>> Target Platform site:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> http://www.qa.jboss.com/binaries/RHDS/updates/jbds-target-platform_3.3.indigo.SR1-M/latest/
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Is that what you were looking for?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Nick
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On 01/12/2012 12:43 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> >>>>>>> I am trying to run my SWTBot tests using Maven and Tycho. The
> >>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>> is, that besides feature under test (in my case it is
> >>>>>>> org.jboss.tools.portlet.feature.feature.group) I need to
> >>>>>>> reference
> >>>>>>> also other Eclipse related features:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> org.eclipse.jst.enterprise_ui.feature.feature.group
> >>>>>>> org.eclipse.jst.web_core.feature.feature.group
> >>>>>>> org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.hsqldb.feature.feature.group
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I also need to specify some plugins where I've not found
> >>>>>>> corresponding feature:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.web.core
> >>>>>>> org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.web.support.jsp
> >>>>>>> org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.web.ui
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I'd like to get rid of these dependencies by referencing only
> >>>>>>> one or
> >>>>>>> two features - the one of Eclipse itself (so that I can run
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> tests
> >>>>>>> against the full Eclipse installation). I've found in my
> >>>>>>> 'Eclipse
> >>>>>>> Java EE IDE for Web
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Try to avoid using features as dependencies - use plugins.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> However, on our target platform URL
> >>>>>>> (http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/target-platform_3.3.indigo.SR1-M/latest/)
> >>>>>>> I can find just the first one (although also some JEE
> >>>>>>> features
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>> there). Am I just missing it? Would it be possible to change
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> target platform to include both of them?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> No, app and platform.ide are product features which is *not*
> >>>>>> part of
> >>>>>> our target platform.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Also, would it be possible to create similar site with JBDS
> >>>>>>> installation so that we can test against the full product?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Not sure what this means ?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> /max
> >>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list
> >>>>>> jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> --
> >>>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat
> >>>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio
> >>>> http://nick.divbyzero.com
> >>> 
> >>> /max
> >>> http://about.me/maxandersen
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> /max
> >> http://about.me/maxandersen
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> /max
> http://about.me/maxandersen
> 
> 
> 
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