[jbosstools-dev] Who uses .target file?

[Rob Cernich]

Sorry.  Let me clarify, when I say target platform, I would also include the JBoss plugins.  Having an all inclusive target file allows me to checkout a specific project and work on it, without having to root out the specific project dependencies, which then means either installing them into a local target platform or checking out their source, then repeating for any missing dependencies of the dependencies, and so on.  I may end up having to checkout half of JBT (or installing everything into a local target) just to work on a simple, segregated feature.  At least having a target file automates the process (even if it does take a while to download everything).

----- Original Message -----
> 
> 
> On 03/14/2012 01:21 PM, Rob Cernich wrote:
> > I agree with Max.  It would be nice if a target file were
> > available.  Right now, the developer must manage his own target
> > platform.  This is compounded by the fact that the base "test"
> > plugins are not available directly from a p2 repository (update
> > site) and must be downloaded and installed separately.
> 
> Target Platform exists as a zip and an exploded site:
> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/target-platform_3.3.indigo.SR2/
> (for building anything in JBoss Tools Core -- download the zip,
> unpack
> it, and use it thus: `mvn clean install
> -Dlocal.site=file:///path/to/unzipped/site/ -Plocal.site` or use that
> site to install into your Eclipse for use w/ PDE)
> 
> It's also a unified.target file if you prefer:
> 
> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/jbosstools/trunk/build/target-platform/
> 
> Tests: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-11077 (coming soon)
> 
> > As far as the slowness, I believe you only pay that when you setup
> > or update your target platform (as the new dependencies are
> > downloaded and updated).  Same price you pay when updating your
> > local target platform.
> >
> > This would be a really nice feature as it makes it easy to setup a
> > development workspace; saves you from having to find all the
> > dependencies yourself.
> 
> *cough* http://eclipsesource.com/en/yoxos/ ? */cough*
> 
> (latest Yoxos 5.5 includes Eclipse 3.7.2:
> http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2012/02/26/yoxos-5-5-and-eclipse-3-7-2/)
> 
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> Noone uses it right now since it is not set up as it should be
> >> afaik
> >>
> >> I would/want to use it if we enable slide planner mode on it so
> >> the
> >> dependencies becomes *deterministic*. They aren't now.
> >>
> >> And then I would like to get target files that I can apply in
> >> eclipse
> >> - but the current one is just too big/slow to work.
> >>
> >> Using an updatesite would not help on that either afaik.
> >>
> >> /max
> >>
> >> On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Mickael Istria wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> This is an important question for us.
> >>> Nick and I are now convinced that .target files are not the
> >>> panacea
> >>> to drive dependency management at build time. It adds a lot of
> >>> additional steps and it does not work that easily in the Maven
> >>> way. We are thinking of some alternatives way to provide a
> >>> "dependency" repository that would contain only the necessary
> >>> stuff for you to work on your component. Then we'll just manage
> >>> this repository instead of a .target file, it should make our
> >>> daily work better and remove lot of complexity.
> >>> See https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-10915 and comments
> >>> starting from here
> >>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-11157?focusedCommentId=12676643&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-12676643
> >>> for more details/debate.
> >>>
> >>> So we more and more think this .target file is useless, and we'd
> >>> like to get rid of it (uselessness is bad). But before that, we'd
> >>> like to know whether some of you do use the generated .target
> >>> file. If yes, we'll have to think on a better way to make
> >>> everyone
> >>> happy. So if you use .target file, raise your hand!
> >>> --
> >>> Mickael Istria
> >>> Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat
> >>> My blog - My Tweets
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