[jbosstools-dev] FreeMarker plugin deprecation

[Nick Boldt]

What's involved in performing a code contribution to ASF? Are lawyers
involved? Do I just send an email to someone saying "here's the repo, it's
EPL, fork it as you want" ?

Nick

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Daniel Dekany <ddekany at freemail.hu> wrote:

> Tuesday, March 6, 2018, 3:35:02 PM, Nick Boldt wrote:
>
> > I'm no lawyer but afaik you should easily be able to just fork the
> > github repo at push that new fork up to apache.org.
>
> Certainly that would be my last commit at the ASF... (: It's more
> paper work. "You" (RedHat) had to contribute the code to the ASF
> first. Then the EPL licenses will be replaced by ASL, the product is
> rebranded to be "Apache", packages names change, etc.
>
> If you think that a such transfer is doable, and is preferred over me
> managing the plug-in here, then I will bring it up at the ASF, and see
> what they think.
>
> > The code's currently under EPL so moving it to ASL should be easily
> > done -- or just leave it as-is, if it's OK to have ASF-hosted code
> > under an EPL license.
> >
> > The project should be easy enough to build as long as you keep it
> > current against the latest JBoss Tools parent pom [1] version. If
> > you prefer to not have cross-org dependencies, or are not allowed
> > to, you will probably have to implement your own parent pom (copy
> > from ours into the freemarker plugin project's root pom).
> >
> > [1]
> > https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-build/blob/master/
> parent/pom.xml
> >
> > If you need to rebrand it (change namespace from org.jboss to
> > org.apache) there's a way to ensure that old versions can still be
> > updated through the namespace change. I can provide you with a PR or
> > sample code for the p2.inf instructions you need in your feature(s) to
> support such a name change.
> >
> > It's really not that much work to move to another foundation --
> > we've often contributed org.jboss plugins/features to Eclipse so I know
> it's doable.
> >
> > Once you have it hosted at apache, building and publishing an
> > update site (and/or zip) should be fairly easy too. Do you have a
> > Jenkins or Hudson instance you can use there?
>
> Yes.
>
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 5:43 AM, Daniel Dekany <ddekany at freemail.hu>
> wrote:
> > Monday, March 5, 2018, 10:46:59 PM, Nick Boldt wrote:
> >
> >> Great question. See reply in
> >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49072160/why-is-
> freemarker-ide-in-eclipse-oxygen-jboss-tools-4-5-2-
> final-deprecated/49119784#49119784
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >> Turns out we JUST removed Freemarker tooling from the forthcoming
> >> JBoss Tools 4.5.3.AM2 build (to be released tomorrow), after
> deprecating it in July 2017.
> >>
> >> So, it could come back if you're willing to take ownership of the
> >> tooling builds & publication.
> >
> > Sure, I'm willing to (assuming there's no crazy administrative
> > overhead). In fact, I have asked about this earlier (like years ago),
> > as it was difficult to get my PR-s merged.
> >
> > Or, just my quick idea, but you can perhaps donate the code to the
> > ASF, where the FreeMarker project is anyway. Haven't looked into how
> > messy that would be legally though...
> >
> >> Do you have any stats to demonstrate the size of its user base?
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> > People who need this plugin need it because of FreeMarker, and they
> > have no "relationship" with the other JBoss IDE products, so... as the
> > installation instructions on apache.freemarker.org say, they only
> > install the FreeMarker plugin. Then no statistics are collected, as
> > far as I understand from your answer on StackOverflow.
> >
> >> Nick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Daniel Dekany <ddekany at freemail.hu>
> wrote:
> >> I have noticed months ago that the FreeMarker plugin was deprecated.
> >> As a current maintainer of FreeMarker, I would like to know what will
> >> it practically mean in the future, such as, will PR-s be still
> >> integrated, will the artifacts be still hosted, and for how long? What
> >> steps should we (at FreeMarker) take to ensure that the plugin remains
> >> available for users (if any)?
> >>
> >> Also, can someone answer this user question about the deprecation (as
> >> I'm not entirely sure about the answer either)?:
> >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49072160/why-is-
> freemarker-ide-in-eclipse-oxygen-jboss-tools-4-5-2-final-deprecated
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks,
> >>  Daniel Dekany
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >  Daniel Dekany
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>


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