<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>(Added Ken and Anne-Louise to the cc list)<br><br>The current released version of SOA-P is 5.2 - this release is only supported with JBDS 4.1.1 (4.1.2, I guess actually).<br><br>The first version of SOA-P that will support JBDS 5 is SOA-P 5.3 - and we are several weeks away from a beta-ready build of SOA-P 5.3.<br><br>So - I think that the ~2 week delay for SOA tooling with JBDS 5.0.beta1 is not an issue. <br><br>Ken - would you agree?<br><br><br><br>-- Len<br><br><br><br><br><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Nick Boldt" <nboldt@redhat.com><br><b>To: </b>"Rob Cernich" <rcernich@redhat.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse@redhat.com>, "jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org>, "Len DiMaggio" <ldimaggi@redhat.com>, "Mark Yarborough" <myarboro@redhat.com>, "John Graham" <jgraham@redhat.com>, "Burr Sutter" <bsutter@redhat.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:27:12 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Slip the release of JBT/JBDS SOA Tooling to a couple weeks after JBT/JBDS Core? (was Re: [jbosstools-dev] Adding Plugins to m2e Discovery Mechanism)<br><br>Well, then, if we target the QE cycle for the SOA Tooling site to start <br>"in a week or two", you could have your Beta1 site (including <br>0.4.0.Final) out by the end of March.<br><br>Does that work? It'd be very much like the Eclipse release train model <br>with +0, +1, +2, +3 tier projects [1], and the accompanying date offsets <br>needed to have everyone align with their upstream bits.<br><br>(Teiid is also a bit behind -- I'd expected that they'd already be <br>testing w/ the SR1-M target platform so when I flipped the switch on <br>them to start building against that, they'd build fine, but they're <br>broken right now. They too are a +3 project to JBT Core's +0.)<br><br>[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Indigo/Simultaneous_Release_Plan<br><br>Adding John, Mark, Burr, and Len so they're in the loop on this <br>"staggered release" idea and suggested 2 week offset. I have no idea if <br>that works from their point of view.<br><br>On 02/22/2012 01:19 PM, Rob Cernich wrote:<br>> I think I'd want one of our "Final" releases to show up there. That said, 0.4 won't be complete for another week or two and I don't remember whether or not the m2e extension was in 0.3.<br>><br>> I'm happy to wait.<br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>> guys we are working on beta1 - that seem to be a fine place and time<br>>> to push such a thing aint it ?<br>>><br>>> /max<br>>><br>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Nick Boldt wrote:<br>>><br>>>> So then we take the nightly site, move it a temporary location that<br>>>> won't be overwritten by subsequent nightly spins, and tell QE to go<br>>>> wail<br>>>> on it (Feb 23).<br>>>><br>>>> Then, after QE vets it as being stable enough and safe enough to<br>>>> release<br>>>> (Mar 12), it gets moved to here:<br>>>><br>>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/development/indigo/soa-tooling/<br>>>><br>>>> That URL currently contains the M5 bits (which does not yet include<br>>>> Switchyard 0.4).<br>>>><br>>>> It will persist there until such time as CR1 is done, and then<br>>>> we'll<br>>>> replace the site w/ the CR1 bits.<br>>>><br>>>> Isn't that what we do for the JBoss Tools (Core) [1] entry in the<br>>>> Eclipse Marketplace today?<br>>>><br>>>> [1] http://marketplace.eclipse.org/node/121986<br>>>><br>>>> N<br>>>><br>>>> On 02/22/2012 10:33 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:<br>>>>> You cant put a nightly build updatesite which changes and can<br>>>>> break any minute into the m2e repository used by all users of<br>>>>> eclipse.<br>>>>><br>>>>> That's insane - you want a *stable* set of bits up there.<br>>>>><br>>>>> /max<br>>>>><br>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Rob Cernich wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>>>> you got a stable URL for switchyard plugins yet to submit ?<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> We need to be careful which we add here :)<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> I don't quite follow. I was assuming nightly would work (i.e.<br>>>>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk/).<br>>>>>> It doesn't appear that a "version" is required on the catalog<br>>>>>> entry and the documentation is doesn't specify anything other<br>>>>>> than, "It is assumed that contents of provided p2 repository<br>>>>>> will not change in the future unless corresponding m2e<br>>>>>> marketplace catalog entry is removed or amended," which I<br>>>>>> interpret as, some version of the feature and bundle must be<br>>>>>> available from the specified repository.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Another thing that was unclear was whether or not my m2e<br>>>>>> extension needs to be packaged separately from the rest of the<br>>>>>> SwitchYard tooling.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Rob<br>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list<br>>>>>> jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org<br>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list<br>>>>> jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org<br>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev<br>>>><br>>>> --<br>>>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat<br>>>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools& Dev Studio<br>>>> http://nick.divbyzero.com<br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list<br>>>> jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org<br>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev<br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list<br>>> jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org<br>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev<br>>><br><br>-- <br>Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat<br>Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio<br>http://nick.divbyzero.com<br></blockquote><br><br><br>-- <br><div><span name="x"></span><br>Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi@redhat.com)<br>JBoss by Red Hat<br>314 Littleton Road<br>Westford, MA 01886 USA<br>tel: 978.392.3179<br>cell: 781.472.9912<br>http://www.redhat.com<br>http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio<br><br><a href="http://www.redhat.com"><img doc="Briefcase/RHxJBpngthumb.png" src="cid:ccc295560f8e9188fed4d2595c7a27d5ce82a3b1@zimbra" style="border: 0pt none;"></a><br><span name="x"></span><br></div></div></body></html>