<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Great ! Sorry for the misunderstanding, then ;-)<div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Oct 17, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Andrew Lee Rubinger wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hehe, I think we're saying the same thing, Xavier. I only meant that the tooling is an added bonus to a project we'd designed to work well without tooling. This is a really welcome direction. :)<br><br>And yep, Max - I got your mail and will be happy to review.<br><br>On Wed 17 Oct 2012 03:26:22 AM MST, Xavier Coulon wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">I may misunderstand your statements, but I don't think the tooling<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"Eclipses" it at all.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Instead, I think it increases the user's productivity by taking care<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of the boilerplate code (maven configuration and @Deployment method),<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">providing an easy way to launch the test (with the appropriate<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">profile) and giving some validation too.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">It *does not* remove the ability to run the tests from command line<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">with maven..<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Just my 0.02€ ;-)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Best regards,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">/Xavier<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ps: I'm brining this discussion on our mailing-list, not "thecore"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 17, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Irony: When the design criteria of Arquillian to be usable without<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">special IDE tooling becomes "eclipsed" *with* the tooling.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">yes, and we should avoid this and I think we can - cc'ed you on the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">jbosstools-dev mail on this topic.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The arquillian tooling should *augment* what is there in eclipse not<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"take it over"<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">/max<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Awesome, Snjezana.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">S,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">ALR<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Tue 16 Oct 2012 09:07:24 AM MST, Fred Bricon wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Arquillian for the masses<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-------- Message original --------<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sujet: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Eclipse Arquillian<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Date : Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:04:20 +0200<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">De : Fred Bricon <<a href="mailto:fbricon@redhat.com">fbricon@redhat.com</a> <<a href="mailto:fbricon@redhat.com">mailto:fbricon@redhat.com</a>>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Organisation : Red Hat<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Pour : Snjezana Peco <<a href="mailto:snjezana.peco@redhat.com">snjezana.peco@redhat.com</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:snjezana.peco@redhat.com">mailto:snjezana.peco@redhat.com</a>>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Copie à : <a href="mailto:dallen@redhat.com">dallen@redhat.com</a> <<a href="mailto:dallen@redhat.com">mailto:dallen@redhat.com</a>>,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org">jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org">mailto:jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>>>, <a href="mailto:aknutsen@redhat.com">aknutsen@redhat.com</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:aknutsen@redhat.com">mailto:aknutsen@redhat.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">This looks absolutely awesome!<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Nice work Snjeza!<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Le 16/10/2012 16:59, Snjezana Peco a écrit :<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Could you please <a href="reviewhttps://github.com/snjeza/arquillian-eclipse?">reviewhttps://github.com/snjeza/arquillian-eclipse?</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Your suggestions are 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