<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>The SOA6 dates that I know of are an alpha/early adopter release in January - the GA date is undefined still. A draft PRD is due today.<br><br><br>Stay tuned,<br>Len<br><br><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Nick Boldt" <nboldt@redhat.com><br><b>To: </b>"Andrej Podhradsky" <apodhrad@redhat.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org>, "Douglas Palmer" <dpalmer@redhat.com>, "Len DiMaggio" <ldimaggi@redhat.com>, "Bob Brodt" <bbrodt@redhat.com>, "soa-tools-list" <soa-tools-list@redhat.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, November 2, 2012 10:33:00 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [jbosstools-dev] Update site for JBoss SOA Tools<br><br>Yes, there are certainly new versions of org.eclipse.bpel and bpmn <br>available. I just haven't pulled a new mirror in a while, because with <br>there being no schedule for JBDS SOA 6, there's been no need to <br>prioritize that over issues bearing on JBDS Core 6.<br><br>You can get new BPEL/BPMN bits from here:<br><br>http://download.eclipse.org/bpel/site/<br>http://download.eclipse.org/bpmn2-modeler/bpmn2/site/<br>http://download.eclipse.org/bpmn2-modeler/site/<br><br>Bob Brodt, as the project lead, can give you a sense of what the <br>schedule is for upcoming bpel/bpmn2-modeler releases might be, and if <br>he's targeting Eclipse Indigo (3.7), Juno (4.2), or Kepler (4.3).<br><br>If you would like me to pull new versions of the above sites into our <br>requirements mirror area <br>(http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/requirements/) feel free <br>to throw me a JIRA with the details and I can do so.<br><br>But first, PLEASE send a note to John Graham asking that a schedule for <br>JBDS SOA 6 be sketched out so we have a timeline against which to work <br>on creating mirrored bits, target platforms, new development, and QE. I <br>would suggest that a release should be available before the end of <br>1Q2013, which would also allow it to be tested against the final Juno <br>SR2 build, and should we decide to do one, a JBDS Core 6.1.0 or 6.0.1 <br>release AND have it all nicely tied up with a bow before EclipseCon 2013 <br>in Boston.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Nick<br><br>On 11/02/2012 05:44 AM, Andrej Podhradsky wrote:<br>> Hi Nick,<br>><br>> thank you for the explanation! So, the question is:<br>><br>> Is there an update site with new BPEL version which I can use so that my project resolve the dependency on org.eclipse.bpel.model?<br>> Or the dependency problem is a tycho related question?<br>><br>> Andrej.<br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt@redhat.com><br>> To: "Len DiMaggio" <ldimaggi@redhat.com><br>> Cc: "Andrej Podhradsky" <apodhrad@redhat.com>, "jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org>, "Douglas Palmer" <dpalmer@redhat.com><br>> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:03:29 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Update site for JBoss SOA Tools<br>><br>> Every component build produces an update site. These are composited in<br>> an "up to the minute" composite site:<br>><br>> ><br>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/builds/staging/_composite_/soa-tooling/trunk<br>><br>> This is nothing more than 2 XML files which point to the 10 source sites<br>> (one per component). It changes every time a new nightly is produced for<br>> any of the components. It is by nature unstable. You probably don't want<br>> to use it.<br>><br>> From there, we produce an aggregate snapshot of what's in the composite<br>> site:<br>><br>> ><br>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk<br>><br>> That site is a snapshot (along with a zip) and is therefore stable. But<br>> every time the job respins to pick up new child content, the site<br>> changes. So it's relatively stable (in that it changes every few hours<br>> or days) but it's still a nightly.<br>><br>> Yes, you need both - the composite is the input to the aggregate. It's<br>> an internal construct that you probably don't need to worry about, however.<br>><br>> As to old versions of BPEL, the problem there is that there's been a<br>> long outstanding requirement to have a SOA Tooling target platform<br>> (https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-11121) but as yet no one's had<br>> time to address that. It would allow that there's a single version of<br>> Eclipse BPEL against which to build the JBoss BPEL stuff, as well as<br>> standardizing the version of UML2, Graphiti, Juno, etc. on which the SOA<br>> tooling bits are built.<br>><br>> N<br>><br>><br>> On 11/01/2012 11:06 AM, Len DiMaggio wrote:<br>>> Hey Andrej,<br>>><br>>> I have answers to some - but not all.<br>>><br>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>><br>>> *From: *"Andrej Podhradsky" <apodhrad@redhat.com><br>>> *To: *"jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org><br>>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 1, 2012 10:46:31 AM<br>>> *Subject: *[jbosstools-dev] Update site for JBoss SOA Tools<br>>><br>>> Hi all,<br>>><br>>> I'm looking for an update site (nightly build) for soa tools. I can<br>>> see 2 update sites in JBoss Tools parent pom:<br>>><br>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/builds/staging/_composite_/soa-tooling/trunk<br>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk<br>>><br>>> Sorry - Nick - what's the difference here? Do we need both?<br>>><br>>><br>>> The first one is added by activating the profile<br>>> "jbosstools-nightly-staging-composite-soa-tooling".<br>>> Could you explain me what is the goal of this profile/update site?<br>>> Because it seems that the second one is up to date.<br>>><br>>> So lets talk about the second one which is also mentioned at<br>>> http://www.jboss.org/tools/download.<br>>> What's the version of Teiid Designer (TD) here? Is it really<br>>> 8.0.0.final? Because there si only one release which is TD 8.0.0.Alpha1.<br>>><br>>> That (alpha1) is the latest release.<br>>><br>>><br>>> And the last question, just out of curious, how is resolved<br>>> dependencies for Bpel (or in general) in<br>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk?<br>>> I'm able to install the Bpel Editor without any problem, with all<br>>> required plugins, but looking at<br>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk/plugins<br>>> I see only one bpel plugin which is org.jboss.tools.bpel.runtimes.<br>>> I'm asking because my project, which depends on<br>>> org.eclipse.bpel.model, throws a missing requirement error during<br>>> compilation.<br>>> This doesn't happen when I use the repository<br>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/builds/staging/_composite_/soa-tooling/trunk<br>>> but this one contains old version of Bpel.<br>>><br>>> Something is broken here - again, I don't know why we have 2 separate<br>>> and different download sites!<br>>><br>>><br>>> Best Regards<br>>><br>>> --<br>>> Andrej Podhradsky<br>>> Quality Assurance Associate<br>>> JBoss SOA Platform<br>>> IRC: apodhrad at #jbossqa #jbosssoa #jbosssoaqa #devstudio-qa #brno<br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list<br>>> jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org<br>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> --<br>>><br>>> Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi@redhat.com)<br>>> JBoss by Red Hat<br>>> 314 Littleton Road<br>>> Westford, MA 01886 USA<br>>> tel: 978.392.3179<br>>> cell: 781.472.9912<br>>> http://www.redhat.com<br>>> http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio<br>>><br>>> <http://www.redhat.com><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list<br>>> jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org<br>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev<br>>><br>><br><br>-- <br>Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat<br>Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio<br>http://nick.divbyzero.com<br><br><br></blockquote><br><br><br>-- <br><div><span name="x"></span><br>Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi@redhat.com)<br>JBoss by Red Hat<br>314 Littleton Road<br>Westford, MA 01886 USA<br>tel: 978.392.3179<br>cell: 781.472.9912<br>http://www.redhat.com<br>http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio<br><br><a href="http://www.redhat.com"><img doc="Briefcase/RHxJBpngthumb.png" src="cid:6d4ee3f65b1378673cdf99051b850eb055592005@zimbra" style="border: 0pt none;"></a><br><span name="x"></span><br></div></div></body></html>