<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Rob, I wasn’t talking about runtime download at all. I’m talking about runtime detection on a folder containing existing servers.<div>Your suggestion could apply there, too. But it doesn’t scale - what if I have 5 different servers in the searched directory. Would I then get 5 new server (simplified) wizards opened?</div><div><br></div><div>-Martin</div><div><br><div><br><div><div>On 26. 3. 2014, at 20:08, Rob Stryker &lt;<a href="mailto:rstryker@redhat.com">rstryker@redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I think the proper workflow here is to
      simply open the new server wizard and let the user fill out their
      choices. There's no point in duplicating that workflow.<br>
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      Currently it downloads in the background, and, when the download
      is complete, unzips it, makes a runtime out of that folder, and
      then makes a server out of it. It probably should unzip it, make a
      new runtime out of that folder, and then open a new server wizard
      with fewer pages (server type already chosen, so we don't need
      that first page). <br>
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      Runtimes have remained the same and have not changed. Only servers
      have. <br>
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      But yes, will need to investigate how to do it cleanly. <br>
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      On 03/27/2014 02:00 AM, Martin Malina wrote:<br>
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        <div>On 26. 3. 2014, at 18:56, Max Rydahl Andersen &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:manderse@redhat.com">manderse@redhat.com</a>&gt;
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            0px;">On 26 Mar 2014, at 17:37, Len DiMaggio wrote:<br>
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            which two options are you referring to ?<br>
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        I think Len refers to this snippet from my email:</div>
      <div>"So perhaps we should consider which one should be used for
        runtime detection in the future. Or even better perhaps to offer
        both options for runtime detection?"</div>
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      <div>So once runtime detection finds the servers, you could choose
        which mode to use before clicking OK to add them. But I’m not
        sure if there’s a way to do it and avoid confusion for the user.</div>
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      <div>-Martin</div>
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            0px;">I think the idea about locking the servers deployment
            mode<br>
            is too strict in context runtime detection.<br>
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            We need some way to change these - either allow same
            flexibility as<br>
            before or have a "Recreate this server using same basic info
            but in Profile X" instead.<br>
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            /max<br>
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              -- Len<br>
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              ----- Original Message -----<br>
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              | From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:manderse@redhat.com">manderse@redhat.com</a>&gt;<br>
              | To: "Martin Malina" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mmalina@redhat.com">mmalina@redhat.com</a>&gt;<br>
              | Cc: "Rob Stryker" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rstryker@redhat.com">rstryker@redhat.com</a>&gt;,
              "<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org">jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
              | jbosstools-dev" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org">jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>&gt;<br>
              | Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:32:36 AM<br>
              | Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] New server profiles vs.
              Runtime Detection<br>
              <br>
              | I noticed this discrepancy too. Agree need to figure
              this workflow out.<br>
              <br>
              | /max (sent from my phone)<br>
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              | On 26/03/2014, at 12.03, Martin Malina &lt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mmalina@redhat.com">mmalina@redhat.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&gt; wrote:<br>
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              | | Hi Rob,<br>
              |<br>
              <br>
              | | I have a question. Now that we have more profiles for
              servers ( JBIDE-16721<br>
              | | )<br>
              | | - one that prefers management operations and one that
              does not - what<br>
              | | happens when you add a server using Runtime Detection?
              I think it will<br>
              | | currently use the non-management option. In the past,
              you could change the<br>
              | | server settings later to use management. But you say
              that increasingly<br>
              | | there<br>
              | | will be differences between the two that can’t be
              changed afterwards - one<br>
              | | example is the deployment tab in the server editor.<br>
              |<br>
              | | So perhaps we should consider which one should be used
              for runtime<br>
              | | detection<br>
              | | in the future. Or even better perhaps to offer both
              options for runtime<br>
              | | detection?<br>
              |<br>
              | | What do you think about this?<br>
              |<br>
              <br>
              | | Thanks,<br>
              |<br>
              | | Martin<br>
              |<br>
              <br>
              | | --<br>
              |<br>
              | | Martin Malina<br>
              |<br>
              | | JBoss QA Engineer<br>
              |<br>
              | | Red Hat Czech s.r.o.<br>
              |<br>
              | | Purkynova 99<br>
              |<br>
              | | 612 45 Brno, Czech Republic<br>
              |<br>
              <br>
              | | Tel.: +420 532 294 265<br>
              |<br>
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              | | _______________________________________________<br>
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              --<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>
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              Len DiMaggio (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ldimaggi@redhat.com">ldimaggi@redhat.com</a>)<br>
              JBoss by Red Hat<br>
              314 Littleton Road<br>
              Westford, MA 01886 USA<br>
              tel: 978.392.3179<br>
              cell: 781.472.9912<br>
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            /max<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://about.me/maxandersen">http://about.me/maxandersen</a></div>
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                      <div>Martin Malina<br>
                        JBoss QA Engineer<br>
                        Red Hat Czech s.r.o.<br>
                        Purkynova 99<br>
                        612 45 Brno, Czech Republic<br>
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