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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hello All<br><br><div>> From: manderse@redhat.com<br>> To: paul.verest@live.com<br>> CC: mistria@redhat.com; angelo.zerr@gmail.com; jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org<br>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Eclipse process vs just OSS RE: Nodeclipse IDE (or components) in JBoss Tools?<br>> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 09:59:30 +0200<br>> <br>> >>> Just want to add that Eclipse is regarded by some as some overhead.<br>> >><br>> >> yes, and if you don't want to do that overhead you can't expect to be<br>> >> integrated<br>> >> in overall solutions. That is fine and complete fair to say.<br>> > It is great that we agree about overhead. When it is said openly and <br>> > with exact additional steps,that would make it clear and <br>> > comprehensive.<br>> <br>> Funny enough i'm not really following what you mean with "said openly <br>> and with exact additional steps" ?<br>> <br>> You want someone from eclipse.org to say "The Eclipse process might be <br>> perceived as heavy and not for everyone - but that is OK." ?</div><div><br></div><div>Something like</div><div><br></div><div>Eclipse process adds a few steps</div><div>- signing CLA [link]</div><div>- setting up project on Github [link], Ecipse git [link]</div><div><br></div><div>I have never contributed to Eclipse project,</div><div>so I don't know exact steps.</div><div><br>> <br>> >>> Maybe simple explanation and success example can show that it s <br>> >>> easy.<br>> >><br>> >> vert.x is at eclipse now - yes, there is overhead but github is used <br>> >> for<br>> >> contributions.<br>> >><br>> >>> (Especially with cases when code/interactions continues to be on<br>> >>> GitHub)<br>> >>> And that would be one more nice addition to what is missing on<br>> >>> eclipse.org site.<br>> >><br>> >> What page are you looking at where this is not highlighted enough ?<br>> > I don't know URLs to concise answer to this thread topic.<br>> <br>> Okey but you said it is somehow missing on eclipse.org so i'm just <br>> wondering where you have been looking ?<br><br><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/committers/" target="_blank">http://www.eclipse.org/committers/</a></div><div>I did not really know what to search.</div><div>Eclipse has a lot of resources in many places with different level of relevance.<br><br>> <br>> Here is first hits I get when searching eclipse.org github:<br>> <br>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/GitHub<br>> <br>> searching on the wiki gives you details on how you hook up the CLA <br>> check: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Social_Coding/Hosting_a_Project_at_GitHub<br>> <br>> and http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources explains it too.<br>> <br>> and finally the most central page on this is probably <br>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Social_Coding<br>> <br>> What is the page/info you feel are missing in the above ?<br>> <br>> I think the problem you are seeing is a perception problem and that <br>> eclipse.org actually have gone<br>> a long way since many years ago. Yes, there is still a process, and yes <br>> it is heavy at times when you need<br>> to check your dependencies are actually clean - but in day to day work <br>> it is really not different than<br>> any other project.</div><div><br></div><div>Well. That was discussion between the person who knows (Max)</div><div>and the person who didn't see what he had imagine (Paul).</div><div><br></div><div>Now I know how to start and where to ask when needed.</div><div><br>> <br>> /max<br>> http://about.me/maxandersen<br></div> </div></body>
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