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<div style="font-family:sans-serif"><div style="white-space:normal"><p dir="auto">just want to raise that we don't need to move to apache - we can make anyone a contributor <br>
on the jboss tools freemarker plugin that agreeds to the jboss CLA.</p>
<p dir="auto">Can also decide to move it over to a foundation like Eclipse (or Apache) - just need someone<br>
willing to go through IP review and handle the renames that would be needed.</p>
<p dir="auto">/max<br>
<a href="http://about.me/maxandersen" style="color:#3983C4">http://about.me/maxandersen</a></p>
<p dir="auto">On 6 Mar 2018, at 9:35, Nick Boldt wrote:</p>
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<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><div dir="ltr">I'm no lawyer but afaik you should easily be able to just fork the github repo at push that new fork up to <a href="http://apache.org">apache.org</a>. The code's currently under EPL so moving it to ASL should be easily done -- or just leave it as-is, if it's OK to have ASF-hosted code under an EPL license.<div><br></div><div>The project should be easy enough to build as long as you keep it current against the latest JBoss Tools parent pom [1] version. If you prefer to not have cross-org dependencies, or are not allowed to, you will probably have to<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"> implement your own parent pom (copy from ours into the freemarker plugin project's root pom).</span></div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-build/blob/master/parent/pom.xml">https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-build/blob/master/parent/pom.xml</a></div><div><br></div><div>If you need to rebrand it (change namespace from org.jboss to org.apache) there's a way to ensure that old versions can still be updated through the namespace change. I can provide you with a PR or sample code for the p2.inf instructions you need in your feature(s) to support such a name change. </div><div><br></div><div>It's really not that much work to move to another foundation -- we've often contributed org.jboss plugins/features to Eclipse so I know it's doable. </div><div><br></div><div>Once you have it hosted at apache, building and publishing an update site (and/or zip) should be fairly easy too. Do you have a Jenkins or Hudson instance you can use there?</div><div><br></div><div>Nick</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 5:43 AM, Daniel Dekany <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ddekany@freemail.hu" target="_blank">ddekany@freemail.hu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">Monday, March 5, 2018, 10:46:59 PM, Nick Boldt wrote:<br>
<br>
> Great question. See reply in<br>
> <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49072160/why-is-freemarker-ide-in-eclipse-oxygen-jboss-tools-4-5-2-final-deprecated/49119784#49119784" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://stackoverflow.com/<wbr>questions/49072160/why-is-<wbr>freemarker-ide-in-eclipse-<wbr>oxygen-jboss-tools-4-5-2-<wbr>final-deprecated/49119784#<wbr>49119784</a><br>
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</span>Thanks!<br>
<span class=""><br>
> Turns out we JUST removed Freemarker tooling from the forthcoming<br>
> JBoss Tools 4.5.3.AM2 build (to be released tomorrow), after deprecating it in July 2017.<br>
><br>
> So, it could come back if you're willing to take ownership of the<br>
> tooling builds & publication.<br>
<br>
</span>Sure, I'm willing to (assuming there's no crazy administrative<br>
overhead). In fact, I have asked about this earlier (like years ago),<br>
as it was difficult to get my PR-s merged.<br>
<br>
Or, just my quick idea, but you can perhaps donate the code to the<br>
ASF, where the FreeMarker project is anyway. Haven't looked into how<br>
messy that would be legally though...<br>
<span class=""><br>
> Do you have any stats to demonstrate the size of its user base?<br>
<br>
</span>Nope.<br>
<br>
People who need this plugin need it because of FreeMarker, and they<br>
have no "relationship" with the other JBoss IDE products, so... as the<br>
installation instructions on <a href="http://apache.freemarker.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">apache.freemarker.org</a> say, they only<br>
install the FreeMarker plugin. Then no statistics are collected, as<br>
far as I understand from your answer on StackOverflow.<br>
<span class=""><br>
> Nick<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Daniel Dekany <<a href="mailto:ddekany@freemail.hu">ddekany@freemail.hu</a>> wrote:<br>
> I have noticed months ago that the FreeMarker plugin was deprecated.<br>
> As a current maintainer of FreeMarker, I would like to know what will<br>
> it practically mean in the future, such as, will PR-s be still<br>
> integrated, will the artifacts be still hosted, and for how long? What<br>
> steps should we (at FreeMarker) take to ensure that the plugin remains<br>
> available for users (if any)?<br>
><br>
> Also, can someone answer this user question about the deprecation (as<br>
> I'm not entirely sure about the answer either)?:<br>
> <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49072160/why-is-freemarker-ide-in-eclipse-oxygen-jboss-tools-4-5-2-final-deprecated" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://stackoverflow.com/<wbr>questions/49072160/why-is-<wbr>freemarker-ide-in-eclipse-<wbr>oxygen-jboss-tools-4-5-2-<wbr>final-deprecated</a><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Daniel Dekany<br>
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</span>Thanks,<br>
Daniel Dekany<br>
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