<div dir="ltr">I fully agree with this proposal<div><br></div><div>Jeff</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:48 PM Nick Boldt <<a href="mailto:nboldt@redhat.com">nboldt@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">A couple days ago, the Fuse Tooling team encountered what was at first thought as a blocker, but later downgraded [0].<div><br></div><div>This brought up the issue of what to do when problems are found late in the QE test cycle (3hrs before the usual signoff). </div><div><br></div><div>There are of course 3 options when this happens:</div><div><br></div><div>a) block the release and <b>respin</b>, then wait 4-6 hrs for new bits, and some number of hours for QE to review & approve the changed build. Release ends up being delayed by a day or two</div><div><br></div><div>b) block the release and <b>DO NOT SHIP</b></div><div><br></div><div>c) release <b>AS IS</b> with note about Known Issues on the project's New & Noteworthy [1] page and on the blog [2].</div><div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FUSETOOLS-2799" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FUSETOOLS-2799</a></div><div>[1] <a href="http://tools.jboss.org/documentation/whatsnew/jbosstools/4.9.0.AM3.html#fusetools" target="_blank">http://tools.jboss.org/documentation/whatsnew/jbosstools/4.9.0.AM3.html#fusetools</a></div><div>[2] <a href="http://tools.jboss.org/blog/4.9.0.am3.html#fuse-tooling" target="_blank">http://tools.jboss.org/blog/4.9.0.am3.html#fuse-tooling</a></div><div><br></div><div>Along with the new approach to doing fewer milestone releases [3], I'd like to propose that we:</div><div><br></div><div>* stop doing respins UNLESS it's a GA candidate build. </div><div><br></div><div>[3] <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zmT5OuFJWyYrbg1rr6tJqur6ng4rrglUy2tdJbIuCDg/edit#heading=h.o6074tuk59c9" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zmT5OuFJWyYrbg1rr6tJqur6ng4rrglUy2tdJbIuCDg/edit#heading=h.o6074tuk59c9</a></div><div><br></div><div>So, for an AMx milestone build, we should mostly do option c (ship w/ a note), unless the milestone is REALLY unusable, in which case option b would apply.</div><div><br></div><div>How do you feel about this approach? </div><div><br></div><div>Nick</div><div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="m_-3499316165792777845gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#999999">Nick Boldt</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#999999">Principal Software Engineer, RHCSA</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#999999">Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:3pt"><span><font color="#999999"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">IM: @nickboldt / @nboldt / </span><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="http://nick.divbyzero.com" target="_blank">http://nick.divbyzero.com</a></span></font></span><br></p><div><div dir="ltr"><table border="0" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><tbody><tr><td width="100px"><a href="https://red.ht/sig" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><img src="https://www.redhat.com/files/brand/email/sig-redhat.png" width="90" height="auto"></font></a></td><td><div><a href="https://redhat.com/trusted" style="color:rgb(204,0,0);text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold" target="_blank"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">TRIED. 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