[jbpm-dev] Re: Collaboration

[Thomas Diesler]

Hi Kris,

thanks for this feedback. Could you please put this on the dev forum, 
I'll be glad to answer there.

cheers
-thomas

Kris Verlaenen wrote:
> Thomas,
> 
> I don't know if you know me but I'm a member of the JBoss Drools team 
> and leading the ruleflow efforts and the integration between processes 
> and rules.  Our vision is to create a unified platform where rules and 
> processes are simply different ways of expressing (some of your) 
> business logic and can be seamlessly integrated.  This would allow users 
> to select the most appropriate paradigm for their problem and integrate 
> rules and processes without requiring them to learn and integrate 
> different products themselves.  This is partially based on the 
> observation that both rules and processes have a very similar life 
> cycle: creation in a custom editor, storing your business logic in a 
> repository, deployment to a runtime environment, monitoring and 
> management of the execution, etc.  We believe that is should be possible 
> to offer an unified environment where this life cycle is supported as 
> much as possible and both rules and processes are considered different 
> types of business logic.
> 
> Mark told me that you are creating a BPM API that can be used for both 
> jBPM 3 and 4.  It would be interesting to see whether ruleflow can also 
> fit in here (and maybe in the long term whether we can offer a similar 
> API for both rules and processes).  I'm already working with Koen Aers 
> on creating a shared core process definition model for both jBPM and 
> Drools Flow, so there might be some overlap.  I attached a screenshot of 
> our progress so far (the core concepts).  Is there any information 
> available about the API that I could take a look at.  I'd also be glad 
> to provide you with more information about our approach or links to our 
> API as well.
> 
> I hope we'll be able to share some of the efforts of both teams. As I 
> said already, I'm working with Koen on integrating and extending the 
> eclipse-based process designer.  But I'm also thinking about our 
> repository (Guvnor) for storing business logic, or the BAM/SAM efforts.  
> I would be interested in knowing what you guys are up to in the future 
> to see whether there are some opportunities for collaboration.  I've 
> also been told that you are going to provide WS-HumanTask integration 
> for handling human tasks.  I have implemented a proof of concept 
> implementation for Drools Flow that uses the WS-HT service from 
> ActiveEndpoints to execute human tasks in Drools Flow.  I also have some 
> experience with Eclipse-BIRT for creating basic monitoring reports for 
> our execution engine.  So if I can be of any assistance, let me know.
> 
> Kris
> 
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Thomas Diesler
BPM Product Lead
JBoss, a division of Red Hat
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