[jbpm-dev] [JBPM 5.x] service task repository

Tue Mar 13 13:43:41 EDT 2012

I think you have very valid points. IMO just:
1) There should not be a limitation exposed on users to have to have 
Guvnor (and thus a J2EE server) running in order to host static files 
(service repo).
2) Guvnor assets are divided into packages, if you lets say have a 
"serviceRepo" package and from what I can tell you say build it and 
expose a pkg or zip or whatever, someone on the other end has to 
understand what a pkg file is/isnot or have to know how to unzip etc.
3) If you do not have a dedicated guvnor package for your service repo, 
then you need advanced logic to piece together all assets that belong to 
your repo..in the same environment that your users are 
developing/modelling in..not very intuitive imo.
4) Let's say you want to use guvnor and this is some sort of 
mission-critical service repo for you, to do this now you need a 
clustering environement of J2EE server(s) and Guvnor running in a 
cluster all connected to a clustered JCR repo..etc etc..instead of just 
pushing your static files to akamai and call it a day :)

Thanks.

On 3/13/12 1:32 PM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
> Tiho, a question for you.. why guvnor cannot host a file? I mean.. I'm 
> not sure how Porcelli is creating the war files for the services, but 
> we can generate something similar right? some meta information, some 
> images, some configuration files, etc, when the user or a client like 
> eclipse want to get the workitemhandler installed it just create a zip 
> file with all the required dependencies and it send that back to the 
> client. In that way we will gain versioning, categorization and 
> tagging for free..right? Plus the possibility in the future to manage 
> that with a workflow for approvals if we add that for all the other 
> resources.
> Probably I'm missing something but I don't understand what is the 
> Guvnor limitation to host files or descriptors, we are already doing 
> that for spring beans configs.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Tihomir Surdilovic 
> <tsurdilo at redhat.com <mailto:tsurdilo at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'm not sure if Guvnor is the best place for it - because assets
>     that are stored in Guvnor are not very portable as a "unit"
>     outside of Guvnor. I would rather make it in a way work like maven
>     -> users can specify the "parent" repository which can be one that
>     we provide for the community with all out-of-the-box services
>     nodes and run mvn clean install which will build their local repo
>     that they can expose on any public domain or server they wish, any
>     way they wish..just my 2c.
>
>
>
>     On 3/13/12 12:11 PM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
>>     At some point those definitions should be stored in guvnor right?
>>     Until now I think it's just a folder with some meta-data files to
>>     define what is in there, but I think that it really make sense to
>>     put that functionality inside guvnor that is a fully fledged
>>     repository right?
>>     Guvnor already provide the APIs to push resources, and we
>>     definitely need to add a kind of workflow for resources.. but
>>     it's not there yet.
>>
>>     Cheers
>>
>>     On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Giovanni Marigi
>>     <gmarigi at redhat.com <mailto:gmarigi at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi,
>>         I would like to know the status of service task repository;
>>         I really appreciate the idea behind it and delivering some
>>         POC, customers were really enthusiastic about this feature
>>         (especially its integration with jbpm designer and BRMS) but
>>         it seems that the actual repo doesn't have some new effort.
>>         Will we provide API to push service tasks to the repository?
>>         I think it should be useful to provide some mechanism to
>>         approve a new service task before to make it public.
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>         Giovanni
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