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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Hi all!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I am really confused by now what is going on
in the jBPM project and JBoss BPM project. Could somebody please clarify:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Is JBoss BPM now a different
project than jBPM? Or is it one?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Where is the exact goal of the
BPM?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Where does this BPM-API should
lead to?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>The BPM documentation uses some
XML notation. Which language is that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>How does PVM / jBPM 4 relate to
the “JBoss BPM”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>What products will be available?
PVM, jBPM jPDL 3, jBPM jPDL 4? What’s with BPEL?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>What effort is going to on to
integrate BPMN?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Who is project lead of what?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>And:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>When is the mailinglist used,
when the forum?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Sorry, but I am really confused. I thought
there was a clear vision in the jBPM project (PVM / jBPM jPDL 4 as “reference
implementation”), but now there are a lot of other things, like this “BPM
product”. What is exactly going on here?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Sorry for asking that “silly”
questions, I have some idea in my mind about how everything goes on, but am not
sure if that picture reflects reality ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><br>
And as long I don’t have a clear picture is hard for me to contribute
ideas or code and to continue giving presentations on jBPM on conferences
(since normally I try to know what I am talking about). Also it will be an interesting
information for delivering the RedHat jBPM trainings….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thanks for your answers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Bernd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>EJB-3-Buch: <a href="http://www.ejbbuch.de/"><span
style='color:windowtext'>http://www.ejbbuch.de/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>SENS-Experte: <a href="http://www.softwareexperts.de/"><span
style='color:windowtext'>http://www.softwareexperts.de/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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