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color:#1F497D'>would be interesting why he thinks so, since I believe the Non-JMS-JobExecutor
is stable as well (and we did some stress testing in one project). Only
advantage of JMS is to maybe have existing JMS tooling available (to monitor
the DLQ and so on) in my opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Burr Sutter
[mailto:bsutter@redhat.com] <br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 14. Mai 2009 01:44<br>
<b>An:</b> Bernd Rücker<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Tom Baeyens'; 'Len DiMaggio'; 'jBPM Dev List'; 'Mark Little'; 'John
Graham'<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: AW: [jbpm-dev] Re: jBPM 4 limitations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hey Bernd,<br>
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We have one user who believes the JMS-based JobExecutor is the only stable one
on jBPM3. <br>
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Is the jBPM4 JobExecutor vastly better in architecture/design to make it
superior to the JMS-based solution?<br>
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Burr<br>
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Bernd Rücker wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Hi!<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>A short comment on JMS and EJB Timers: Currently you can either use both<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>or none. And since EJB Timers fail to scale well, in the bigger projects I<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>know we always used the JobExecutor and skipped JMS and EJB Timers. And<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the JobExecutor scales perfectly well, so this is not a problem in my<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>eyes. Maybe to not have the JMS Marketing sticker is not that good, but<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>this is for you to judge...<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Cheers<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Bernd<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Von: <a
href="mailto:jbpm-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org">jbpm-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>[<a
href="mailto:jbpm-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org">mailto:jbpm-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org</a>] Im Auftrag von Tom Baeyens<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2009 11:04<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>An: Burr Sutter<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cc: Len DiMaggio; jBPM Dev List; Mark Little; John Graham<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Betreff: [jbpm-dev] Re: jBPM 4 limitations<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>That will make some jBPM3 users unhappy. NTT feels this will add<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>scalability, especially in a cluster.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>
<pre>Same here. We have all functional components in place, but except for<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>
<pre>QA. Setting that up requires productization resources which we don't<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>have. So that work is now serialized and will have to be > > prioritized<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>after GA.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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