Hi Sebastian,<br><br>See inline<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Sebastian Schneider <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:schneider@dvz.fh-aachen.de">schneider@dvz.fh-aachen.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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A few days ago I read Joram's great blog post about BPMN 2.0 and jBPM:<br>
<a href="http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2009/12/04/jbpm-goes-bpmn/" target="_blank">http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2009/12/04/jbpm-goes-bpmn/</a><br>
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First of all my congratulations for your work and thanks to everybody<br>
who is putting effort into this. It is really astonishing to see how the<br>
PVM can be leveraged to implement BPMN 2.0.<br>
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Regarding the implementation I have some questions:<br>
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You seem to have implemented a basic parsing of BPMN 2.0 process<br>
definitions already. Does this mean that the OMG has agreed on a<br>
serialization format? From what I could see in Joram's post it is not XPDL.<br></blockquote><div><br>No it's definitely not XPDL, but a BPMN2 specific format.<br>The serialization format is not yet 100% completed, but stable enough to already build an implementation for it.<br>
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In his post Joram wrote that task-forms can already be used with BPMN<br>
process definitions. Is the storage of the necessary information about<br>
which form to use a jBPM-specific thing, a BPMN standard or a kind of<br>
extension which is supported by BPMN?<br></blockquote><div><br><br>The BPMN spec has a 'rendering' element, but the actual content of that element is not in the spec.<br>This means that these things will be vendor-specific.<br>
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Are you planning to extend the GPD to support modelling in BPMN 2.0?<br>
Or will it be possible in the future to use the Signavio Editor to<br>
design process models which are executable? AFAIK right now they use<br>
their own file format to store BPDs and jPDL in case you are using the<br>
jBPM stencil set which is quite limited.<br></blockquote><div><br><br>We are currently very close collaborating with Signavio to be able to create executable processes through their editor.<br>If all goes well, we should have some announcement regarding that topic before the 4.3 release.<br>
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AFAIK there is the Eclipse BPMN modeler. Assuming they are going to<br>
support BPMN 2.0 it would be possible to use this editor, right? So<br>
implementating an own BPMN-2.0 Eclipse editor would not make sense?<br>
What's your opinion on this?<br></blockquote><div><br><br>The more editors, the better ;-) Definitely if they are open source ;-)<br>Koen did already take a look at the BPMN modeler by Eclipse, but they have nothing very concrete yet.<br>
For me personally, a BPMN2 editor would make sense, since some things (code completion, class searching, etc) make the life of the developer easy.<br><br>Regards<br><br>Joram<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Lots of questions. I'd love to hear your statements and your opinions on<br>
these.<br>
<br>
Sebastian<br>
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