Hi guys,<br>Good points. I'm not sure if I agree with Sebastian when he mention the the API separation. Right now if we think into an integrated environment/platform (I'm not saying heavy-weight) the APIs and the semantics used need to be chosen carefully.<br>
But the main ideas remains the same :<br>- embeddable<br>- small footprint<br>- BPMN2<br>- pluggeable modules with default implementations<br><br>About Maciej thoughts, I notice that you pointed out Sebastian's words and I notice that both knows Drools only as a Business Rule engine (just Drools Expert), would be nice to discuss the main points of the other modules of Drools as well, just to not miss something important.<br>
<br>Greetings.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Maciej Swiderski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:swiderski.maciej@gmail.com">swiderski.maciej@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi guys,<div><br></div><div>I agree with you if we are talking about jBPM as a framework as it is currently. But in my opinion presented concept is more like complete platform and not only framework. That's why I suggested that authorization should be included there as well.</div>
<div>Obviously it should be plug-able but I think this will be done like that by default.</div><div>BTW, it was described already in the article, I just simple missed it.</div><div><br></div><div>In addition, it should be clearly shown what is the purpose of jBPM and Drools. At this point they overlap each other in some areas which makes it a bit confusing. As Sebastian pointed out, Drools is a good rules engine and jBPM is a good workflow engine so focus should be on integrating them in a easy way, that would bring a lot to both.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Maciej<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/4/17 Sebastian Schneider <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:schneider@dvz.fh-aachen.de" target="_blank">schneider@dvz.fh-aachen.de</a>></span><div>
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Hello Mauricio,<br>
<br>
Am 17.04.2010 18:20, schrieb Mauricio Salatino:<br>
<div>> Hi Sebastian,<br>
> Not sure about PVM, I think there are some differences with jBPM that<br>
> need to be addressed.<br>
> In drools flow there is already an advanced support for BPMN2, so it<br>
> think we need to dig a little bit to find out big differences and<br>
> missing points.<br>
<br>
</div>Does Drools Flow use a version of the PVM? Anyway, I never understood<br>
completely what was the point of Drools Flow since in the first place<br>
Drools is a business rules engine for me - and a good one - but not a<br>
solution for the execution of complete processes.<br>
<br>
I know that there are cases where a busines rule represents a kind of<br>
flow and this is where Drools Flow fits in for me but I would never<br>
consider task management part of it for example.<br>
<br>
Just my 2 cents<br>
Sebastian<br>
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