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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi all,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I couldn’t agree more with Nelson. I can subscribe to each and every point of critique he mentioned with Nr. 2 being one of
mayor concern for our projects. I may want to add two:</span></font></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:navy"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Add generic WorkItems to invoke Stored Procedures and WebServices. I did a preliminary development based on Spring
(v3.0.x) for generic SP invocation and passed along the code to Kris, but I reckon there are more pressing issues to work on. The generic WebService invocation I see more complex as I couldn’t find a library to work with.
</span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:navy"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Review logging – there is way too many System.out code in drools/jBPM for production systems., the logs just get
cluttered.</span></font> </li></ol>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="1" color="#1e5c79" face="Verdana"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt">Best regards,<br>
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</span></font><strong><b><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Burkhard Vogel</span></font></b></strong><span lang="EN-US"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">-----Mensaje original-----<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">De:</span></b> jbpm-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">En nombre de </span></b>Nelson Marques Pereira<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Enviado el:</span></b> Thursday, 02 June, 2011 04:11<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Para:</span></b> jbpm-dev@lists.jboss.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Asunto:</span></b> [jbpm-dev] jBPM5.1CR1 comments</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi guys,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">I have been following this project up closely and I have tried out the new jBPM5.1. This is a project that I have a special interest and
that I have accompanied for quite some time</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">I feel that there are some features that would be important in future releases for the jBPM,</span></font></p>
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<p class="msolistparagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">1.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></font></span></font><span lang="EN-GB">Decoupling the java classes from the BPMN2 xml - Currently the all the task objects that have code in them, this code is being written in the XML, my feeling is that any kind of code should be decoupled from the
XML and created in a separate java files.</span></p>
<p class="msolistparagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">2.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></font></span></font><span lang="EN-GB">Runtime versioning – I think that at this time there isn’t a way to version process at runtime, I mean the ability to have two versions of the same process and be able to run them both.</span></p>
<p class="msolistparagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">3.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></font></span></font><span lang="EN-GB">Easier way to configure – One of the things that I have struggled is configuration, it is still very time consuming to configure jBPM5.1. For example, configuring persistence, besides configuring persistence, hibernate
and testDS1 xml’s I also hat to configure persistence file in jbpm-human-task-5.1.0.M1.jar file.</span></p>
<p class="msolistparagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">4.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></font></span></font><span lang="EN-GB">Detailed information – I know that in time the information will get up to speed and that the lack of it has to do with this project being fairly recent, but an upgrade on user and development information would
be very important and a way to consolidate the project.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">I hope my feedback helps and hope to see future developments from this project.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Kind regards.</span></font></p>
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