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On 6/2/11 2:54 PM, Burkhard Vogel wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"
lang="EN-US">I couldn’t agree more with Nelson. I can
subscribe to each and every point of critique he mentioned
with Nr. 2 being one of mayor concern for our projects. I
may want to add two:</span></font></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">Add generic WorkItems
to invoke Stored Procedures and WebServices. I did a
preliminary development based on Spring (v3.0.x) for
generic SP invocation and passed along the code to Kris,
but I reckon there are more pressing issues to work on.
The generic WebService invocation I see more complex as
I couldn’t find a library to work with.
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: navy;"><font color="navy"
face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">Review logging – there
is way too many System.out code in drools/jBPM for
production systems., the logs just get cluttered.</span></font></li>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBPM-3223">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBPM-3223</a>. I'll take care of it
soon. <br>
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face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">De:</span></b>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">En nombre de </span></b>Nelson
Marques Pereira<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Enviado el:</span></b>
Thursday, 02 June, 2011 04:11<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Para:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jbpm-dev@lists.jboss.org">jbpm-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Asunto:</span></b>
[jbpm-dev] jBPM5.1CR1 comments</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font
face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font
face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"
lang="EN-GB">Hi guys,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font
face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"
lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font
face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"
lang="EN-GB">I have been following this project up closely
and I have tried out the new jBPM5.1. This is a project
that I have a special interest and that I have accompanied
for quite some time</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font
face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"
lang="EN-GB">I feel that there are some features that
would be important in future releases for the jBPM,</span></font></p>
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face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"
lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="msolistparagraph" style="margin-left: 71.4pt;
text-indent: -18pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-GB">1.<font face="Times
New Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times
New Roman";">
</span></font></span></font><span lang="EN-GB">Decoupling
the java classes from the BPMN2 xml - Currently the all the
task objects that have code in them, this code is being
written in the XML, my feeling is that any kind of code
should be decoupled from the XML and created in a separate
java files.</span></p>
<p class="msolistparagraph" style="margin-left: 71.4pt;
text-indent: -18pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-GB">2.<font face="Times
New Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times
New Roman";">
</span></font></span></font><span lang="EN-GB">Runtime
versioning – I think that at this time there isn’t a way to
version process at runtime, I mean the ability to have two
versions of the same process and be able to run them both.</span></p>
<p class="msolistparagraph" style="margin-left: 71.4pt;
text-indent: -18pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-GB">3.<font face="Times
New Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times
New Roman";">
</span></font></span></font><span lang="EN-GB">Easier
way to configure – One of the things that I have struggled
is configuration, it is still very time consuming to
configure jBPM5.1. For example, configuring persistence,
besides configuring persistence, hibernate and testDS1 xml’s
I also hat to configure persistence file in
jbpm-human-task-5.1.0.M1.jar file.</span></p>
<p class="msolistparagraph" style="margin-left: 71.4pt;
text-indent: -18pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-GB">4.<font face="Times
New Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times
New Roman";">
</span></font></span></font><span lang="EN-GB">Detailed
information – I know that in time the information will get
up to speed and that the lack of it has to do with this
project being fairly recent, but an upgrade on user and
development information would be very important and a way to
consolidate the project.</span></p>
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face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"
lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font
face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"
lang="EN-GB">I hope my feedback helps and hope to see
future developments from this project.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 35.4pt;"><font
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