<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">In the least, I think moving "JBoss Developer Framework is use case focused, and every tri-annual release focuses on two new use cases." to a higher level would increase it's visibility<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#808080" face="'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;">.</span></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#808080" face="'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;">A section on "How do we plan the roadmap" which includes that sentence above + a way of telling people how to provide feedback and solicit new features would be tremendously helpful. IMO.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#808080" face="'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#808080" face="'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;"><br></span></font></div><div><div><div><div>On 2012-07-06, at 12:36 PM, Pete Muir wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Should I try to write up what I wrote below about the "why" the roadmap is like it is? Is that helpful info?<br><br>On 6 Jul 2012, at 17:23, Jason Porter wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">+1 I like this much more than what we had before. It helps break things up and also shows users and customers what's happening, transparency FTW!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">----- Original Message -----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: "Pete Muir" <<a href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com">pmuir@redhat.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: <a href="mailto:jdf-dev@lists.jboss.org">jdf-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cc: "Mark Yarborough" <<a href="mailto:myarboro@redhat.com">myarboro@redhat.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 9:08:09 AM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: [jdf-dev] Rebuilt roadmap<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">All,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">As your probably aware, one of our goals with jdf is to help people<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">understand both the JBoss upstream projects (such as JBoss AS) and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the Red Hat products (such as JBoss Enterprise Application<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Platform), as they are extremely similar :-)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">With this in mind, we've got a fairly strict rule, that we can't add<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">something to the jdf roadmap, unless it's also available in a<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">product "soon after" the jdf release (i.e. we can develop stuff in<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">parallel in jdf, but we shouldn't leap ahead).<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">As we risk heading into a timing nightmare with this, I feel it is<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">simplest that we align the jdf release timeline to the Red Hat<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">product which we most closely track (in terms of underlying<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">features). This is, obviously, is WFK, where Errai and RichFaces are<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">packaged, and DeltaSpike probably will be.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">With this in mind, here is the new proposal for the roadmap:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.jboss.org/jdf/stage/about/roadmap/">http://www.jboss.org/jdf/stage/about/roadmap/</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Note that this covers headline features, and there may well be other<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">stuff that makes it in as well, if there is time.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">We'll also aim to do some milestone releases:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">10th August: M1<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">17th August: M2<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">24th August: M3<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">31st August: M4<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">7th Sept: M5<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">14th Sept: M6<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">with a release candidate on 21st Sept.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Marius is working on the Ticket Monster use cases for this release,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and should have those ready today or early next week.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Please review the above info and let me know what you think,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Pete<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">jdf-dev mailing list<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:jdf-dev@lists.jboss.org">jdf-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jdf-dev">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jdf-dev</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>jdf-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:jdf-dev@lists.jboss.org">jdf-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jdf-dev<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>