[jsr-314-open] [community] feedback from #devoxx #jsf2next presentation

[Dan Allen]

Blogged:

http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/JSF2InTheSpotlightAtDevoxx09

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:

> After Devoxx, I never stopped to look back for published feedback about the
> 3 hour JSF 2 university presentation that Andy, Pete and I gave at Devoxx I
> finally did, and to my pleasant surprise, the feedback was very positive.
>
> Here are some clips:
>
> "The course was divided into 3 sections: View (Andy), Controller (Dan) and
> Model (Peter). What I liked about there presentation style was the fact that
> they showed how something was in JSF 1.x, how they improved it in JSF2.0 en
> what they should improve in JSF 2.next. The presentation given by Peter Muir
> was the best of the 3. He was very enthusiastic and explained why JSF
> shouldn’t concern (very much) about the model. I’ve learned a lot in this
> presentation." [1]
>
> "Of particular value was the deep dive into the JSF 2.0 spec, with 3 key
> JSF people, Dan Allen, Peter Muir, and Andy Schwartz introducing various
> aspects of the related specs. I thought they all spoke great: very clearly
> and with in depth knowledge of their subject matter." [2]
>
> "It was also cool to be told that these 3 speakers weren't just there to
> tell us about the JSF spec (and other related specs), but to invite us to
> become part of the process. Sure, that's what one is always told in sessions
> of this kind, but here it seemed to be really in earnest, with nothing more
> being needed than an account on java.net to log feature requests for JSF
> 2.0." [2]
>
> "So yesterday I had a BOF with the JSF spec leads (well the 3 key persons:
> Dan Allen, Peter Muir and Andy Schwartz) and we could in a very relaxed
> setting ask them some questions about the JSF 2 spec. So we could find out
> how and why they made some decisions. The question I asked them: "Why is JSF
> 2 not more focused on components so that I can mix and match components of
> 3rd party providers?". The answer was that they are looking into that and
> that a lot of problems one has with that right now is how resources are
> loaded: all 3rd parties made something on their own. So now all the AJAX
> stuff needs to be gathered and then they will look into that. Good answer,
> I'm glad that they are aware of what lives in the community." [3]
>
> And here are the three amigos in action:
>
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>
> I also found feedback about Antonio's Java EE 6 presentation.
>
> "The first presentation was again a 3 hours during class about the Java EE6
> platform by Antonio Goncalves and Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine....It was the
> best presentation I’ve seen on Devoxx this year. They explained most of the
> new features in EE6 (validation, jsf, EJB3.1,EJB Lite, JSF2.0,
> Servlet3.0,JAX-RS 1.1,JPA2.0,..) and gave an example for each feature. I’m
> very excited about JavaEE6. It’s a lot easier and has a lot of cool
> features. They told us that Java EE6 (and GlassfishV3) will be released in
> December. I can’t wait." [1]
>
> I should also mention that it was during Devoxx that Sebastian Hennebrueder
> published his "JSF 2 - evaluation and test" [4] novel-sized entry. Thanks to
> coodination by Andy, the very next day four JSR-314 EG members representing
> three companies sat down with him and listened to his concerns. Now if that
> doesn't show sign of life from the EG, I don't know what does. We are
> continuing to work with Sebastian to weave his ideas into the design
> discussions for #jsf2next.
>
> [1] http://dev.eek.be/2009/11/devoxx-university-2009/
> [2] http://java.dzone.com/news/devoxx-day-1-university-day-1
> [3] http://ctpjava.blogspot.com/2009/11/devoxx-day-2.html
> [4] http://www.laliluna.de/jsf-2-evaluation-test.html
>
> I suppose I should now turn this into a blog entry :)
>
> -Dan
>
> --
> Dan Allen
> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
> Registered Linux User #231597
>
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>



-- 
Dan Allen
Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
Registered Linux User #231597

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