[jsr-314-open] Another big article

[Martin Marinschek]

Hi guys,

I believe we need to clearly state on such threads what the good and the bad
points of these articles are (Marketing again, the others kinda know how to
do it).

So for the PDF I just read, he was right in:

- there is no extremely simple way to do validation across multiple
components. time for a multi-validator - we have written one for cs-JSF - do
we want to take a look?

He was wrong in everything else on the level of 2.0, what I can see.

Rebuff of his statements:

- CSS style-classes cannot use the internal component states - they can,
with #{component}
- findComponent doesn´t work - it does, exactly as spec'ed - his suggestion
to find any component in the whole tree by an id is outright nonsense. A JSF
developer will always have to understand the naming container structure of
his page to a certain extent
- using a certain component framework ties you to a provider - much more so
if you use Wicket, Tapestry or GWT - man, are you bound in this case
- the component libraries are not interoperable - yes, they are, in many
cases today - but JSF 2.0 tries to solve this problem to a fair extent and I
believe it will be successful
- his point of initialization is irrelevant with the preRenderView system
event of JSF 2.0 (and with a lot of extension frameworks before)
- error and exception handling are clean and concise in JSF 2.0 (and
implementation specific, it was like this already before 2.0)

did I miss anything? In any case, we should listen to him about the
multi-validation issue. One thing that should get sorted at some point of
time.

regards,

Martin

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:

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>> I'm interested to hear how people would like to solve this.
>>
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> I'll take a breath and give them a chance to speak ;)
>
> -Dan
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