[jsr-314-open] JSF logo

[Lincoln Baxter III]

Well, I won't get into an argument about why Perl should die ;) I still
love it.

Just think of a logo as "More consulting opportunities, and a bright
future for everyone who works with JSF."  People are going to look at it
and say, "Damn, I want to use JSF."

Who can argue with that?

:)

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Lincoln Baxter, III
http://ocpsoft.com
http://scrumshark.com
"Keep it Simple" 

On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 16:53 -0600, Jason Lee wrote:

> I'd have to disagree WRT Perl.  It's long overdue for the death it so
> richly deserves. :P I do agree, though, with trying to come up with a
> logo for JSF.  My failed attempts at crafting a logo for my local JUG
> is the best evidence that I can only contribute opinions and not
> options, though. :)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 9, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Lincoln Baxter III wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Lets move forward with the logo contest.
> > 
> > JSF is great, and there are 100 different marketings reasons why you
> > should always establish a symbol for your brand or product -
> > something that people recognize instantly as yours (the google G,
> > the microsoft "window", Tony the Tiger..., Firefox, the ruby gem)
> > 
> > Perl and JSF have a lot in common... 
> >       * multiple implementations 
> >       * slightly tarnished reputation from past versions (not so
> >         slightly in perl's case) 
> >       * no logo... the Camel book has become the de-facto symbol of
> >         Perl. 
> >       * No real web-accessible community center (multiple forums &
> >         mailing lists) 
> > What happened to perl? It's one of the best dynamic languages out
> > there, but it's practically dead for new development.
> > 
> > I'd like to avoid this fate with JSF2 if possible, and now is the
> > perfect time to do it. Right as we are releasing, rebranding.
> > 
> > ---
> > Lincoln Baxter, III
> > http://ocpsoft.com
> > http://scrumshark.com
> > "Keep it Simple" 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 16:15 -0500, Dan Allen wrote:
> > 
> > > JSF is nearly a decade old and still has no recognizable logo.
> > > While there are plenty of logos floating around for the different
> > > implementations and component libraries, there's no face for JSF
> > > itself. I've frequently come across this gap when putting together
> > > presentations or websites that feature JSF.
> > > 
> > > Thus, I pose the following two questions to the EG:
> > > 
> > > 1. Do others agree that we should have a logo to represent JSF the
> > > framework?
> > > 2. Do you think we should host a contest for people to submit a
> > > logo? The alternative would be to get an EG member (JBoss, Oracle,
> > > Sun, an individual) to submit a candidate.
> > > 
> > > Why a logo for JSF? JSF is unique in that it competes against
> > > other web frameworks that are not part of the Java EE platform. We
> > > need someway to represent the spec when standing JSF up against
> > > Wicket, Tapestry, Struts, etc. We can't put the Mojarra or MyFaces
> > > logos in there because that's not the true identity of JSF.
> > > 
> > > Plus, the logo will be central to our effort to put together a
> > > launch page for JSF, which I'll mention in a later e-mail.
> > > 
> > > -Dan
> > > 
> > > p.s. Hopefully we start a trend of specs including logos, even the
> > > platform itself, but that is a topic for another conversation.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Dan Allen
> > > Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
> > > Registered Linux User #231597
> > > 
> > > http://mojavelinux.com
> > > http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction
> > > http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen 
> 
> 
> 
> Jason Lee, SCJP
> President, Oklahoma City Java Users Group
> Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems
> http://blogs.steeplesoft.com
> 
> 
> 
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