[jsr-314-open] revisiting the JSR-314 openness policy

[Alexander Smirnov]

I just did some investigations last weekend, and found what it could be 
hard to figure out even current mailing list addresses. Never 
https://javaserverfaces.dev.java.net/ nor JSR pages 
http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=314 contain references to proper mailing 
lists. Ed blog seems the only place that mentions jsr-314-comments. JSR 
page points to jsr-314-public forum with only Dan's message that was 
posted on Aug 03.

On 09/23/2009 11:24 AM, Roger Kitain wrote:
> Andy Schwartz wrote:
>> Hey Roger -
>>
>> Thanks for your efforts in tracking this down.
>>
>> Roger Kitain wrote:
>>> They also said that the older jsr-314-open messages could be injected
>>> into this forum so we
>>> would not lose anything.
>>
>> That's great news!
>>
>>>
>>> I'm still awaiting specific
>>> details about the new process and what we need to do to rectify the
>>> situation, but it may mean
>>> we change from jsr-314-open to jsr-314-public. I will let you know as
>>> soon as I find out more.
>>
>> Taking a look at the following info from the jcp site:
>>
>> http://jcp.org/en/introduction/intro#boards
>>
>> We have access to a 3 discussion boards:
>>
>>> * jsr-xxx-public: this is a board to which any registered user can
>>> post. Some Expert Groups may choose to use these boards for their
>>> primary communication on the JSR's development. As an alternative to
>>> viewing the long list of all boards, you can also get to a given
>>> JSR's public board by clicking the "jsr-xxx-public" link on the JSR's
>>> summary page.
>>> * jsr-xxx-observers: this is a board to which any registered user may
>>> request to be added, to which the JSR's Spec Lead and experts are
>>> automatically subscribed. Some Expert Groups may choose to use these
>>> boards for their primary communication on the JSR's development,
>>> while still others may use it as a mechanism for providing updates to
>>> the particularly interested members of the community. To request to
>>> be added to a JSR's observer board, use the Observers board request
>>> form to ask to be added to the board.
>>> * jsr-xxx-eg: this is a board that is private to the Specification
>>> Lead(s) and Expert Group members for that JSR. Some Expert Groups may
>>> choose to use these boards for their primary communication on the
>>> JSR's development, using the others as mechanisms for community updates.
>>
>> Seems like we would want to perform the following mapping
>>
>> jsr-314-comments is replaced by jsr-314-public.
>> jsr-314-open is replaced by jsr-314-observers.
>> jsr-314-eg stays the same (which is not really in use at this point).
> Yes, based on that information that mapping appears to be what we could
> use.
>>
>> Note that there is some degree of email support available:
>>
>>> Using the boards via e-mail
>>> Many Expert Groups wish to conduct their communications primarily
>>> through e-mail. Both the observers and EG-private boards also
>>> generate e-mail messages. This allows the people using those boards
>>> to choose to use either the board's web interface, or just to
>>> interact with the board via e-mail, where it functions like a
>>> standard mailing list, or some combination of the two. For instance,
>>> if you are on the Expert Group for JSR 500, you could send mail to
>>> jsr-500-eg at jcp.org. This message would be distributed to everyone
>>> else on the Expert Group via e-mail, as well as being entered in the
>>> discussion board for future reference.
>>
>> But apparently no email love for jsr-314-public. Roger - any chance
>> you could raise this limitation with your jcp contact? Ideally we
>> would like email access to the public forum.
> Yes. That certainly does appear to be n unfortunate limitation. Let's
> see what we can do about it.
>>
>> Andy
>>
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