[jsr-314-open-mirror] [jsr-314-open] ANNOUNCE: JSF 2.1 Spec, Release Candidate Five

Sat Nov 6 00:19:42 EDT 2010

>>>>> On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:53:48 -0400, Andy Schwartz <andy.schwartz at oracle.com> said:

AS> On 11/5/10 2:32 PM, Ed Burns wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:33:29 -0700, Ed Burns <edward.burns at oracle.com> said:
>>>>>>> 
>> 
>> The unprefixed namespace, also known as the root namespace, must be
>> passed through without modification or check for validity. The
>> passing through of the root namespace must occur on any non-prefixed
>> element in a facelet page.

AS> Sounds good.  (Sounds like we are just specifying behavior that Faclets 
AS> has always implemented, right?)

Yes, that is correct.

AS> BTW, I see that we still have <h:html> and <h:title> components in the 
AS> latest spec.  I haven't seen an explanation for why this are 
AS> necessary/useful.  When I asked about this, you mentioned that <h:html> 
AS> was useful as a resource target.  However, it is not.  From our earlier 
AS> thread:

>> I see.  Unfortunately this approach is flawed.  The <html> element may 
>> only contain <head> and <body> elements.  As such, "html" is not a 
>> valid target for resource relocation.  We need to remove this new 
>> requirement from the 2.1 specification.
>> 
>> If <h:html> cannot serve as a resource target and if <html> is a valid 
>> element in XML processing mode, I am still unclear on the value of 
>> <h:html> and wonder whether this should be included in the 2.1 
>> specification.
>> 
>> On a related note, what's up with <h:title>? :-)   Can we kill this 
>> off?  Or is there some reason why folks would need to use this instead 
>> of <title>? 

AS> I don't remember seeing a response to this, though with all of the 
AS> emails lately, I may have missed it.

AS> I still do not understand why our users would use <h:html> and <h:title> 
AS> over <html> and <title>.  If we don't have a strong reason for why these 
AS> components are useful, we should remove these from the specification in 
AS> order to avoid spec/component bloat.

I will drop <h:html> and <h:title>.

Ed

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