+1<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Jim Driscoll <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Jim.Driscoll@sun.com">Jim.Driscoll@sun.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
In making the changes to the RI, I also discovered that h:inputText had the same behavior as h:outputText. Since the code was shared, and the behavior was if anything even more nonsensical in the inputText case, I changed the behavior for both.<br>
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I'm closing the RI bug that this is associated with, and opening a spec issue:<br>
<a href="https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bugcgi?id=585" target="_blank">https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=585</a><br>
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Please comment if you have any concerns. (We still have a day to fiddle with it before it goes live.)<br><font color="#888888">
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Jim</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 7/8/09 11:59 AM, Jim Driscoll wrote:<br>
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As I stated in an earlier email, I'd like this wrapped up by today. This<br>
isn't an arbitrary date: I'd like to make the RI changes today, so they<br>
go out in our second Beta release - if we're going to change something<br>
like this, it's best that it be in a Beta, not snuck into an FCS (or<br>
even an RC), so we can actually get feedback before committing to the<br>
behavior.<br>
<br>
We seem to have a (very) rough consensus that Andy's proposed solution,<br>
not rendering children of outputText, is acceptable. So, I'll proceed on<br>
implementing that solution today.<br>
<br>
If you have serious concerns about this direction, now would be the last<br>
best chance to voice them.<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
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On 7/8/09 9:55 AM, Jim Driscoll wrote:<br>
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On 7/7/09 5:52 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:<br>
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I'm ok with #1 -- "does not render childre"n. I'm also for providing a<br>
"backwards compatability switch" -- but it needs to be documented<br>
clearly in the component PDL docs so that people are aware of it --<br>
that'll cause unhappy customers.<br>
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The switch I had in mind was an implementation-specific switch - we have<br>
a few of those already in Mojarra. Since the behavior wasn't previously<br>
defined in the spec, it doesn't really make sense to document a switch<br>
to change back to previous behavior in the PDL, since the PDL is part of<br>
the spec, and there was no "previous behavior" in the spec.<br>
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But I share your concern and frustration about getting folks to<br>
understand how to fix it if their existing apps break. Release notes are<br>
the usual place where we put such documentation.<br>
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This is good in my eyes because it makes a piece of JSF more<br>
intuitive, with the *OPTION* to do something counterintuitive yet<br>
possibly necessary for a number of reasons - if we continue to make<br>
improvements of this sort, then JSF will continue to improve.<br>
<br>
--Lincoln<br>
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1. Spec that h:outputText is a leaf component: children are not<br>
rendered.<br>
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