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On 10/8/09 5:51 PM, Martin Marinschek wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I know I am way late with my post, but I (sure) also agree with Andy.
Can we take this up as an issue against the implementation, and
eventually a clarification to the spec?
Ryan, what do you think?
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We've made the necessary changes to Mojarra to support Andy's
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added a line item to the MR change log [1] (see C034).<br>
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[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Projects/Jsf2MR1ChangeLog">http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Projects/Jsf2MR1ChangeLog</a>
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Leonardo, can you do the same in MyFaces?
regards,
Martin
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Kito Mann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kito.mann@virtua.com"><kito.mann@virtua.com></a> wrote:
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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Andy Schwartz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:andy.schwartz@oracle.com"><andy.schwartz@oracle.com></a>
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Ryan, All -
Breaking this topic off into a separate thread, though I am impressed with
the length of the "<h:dataTable> binding vs. ui:repeat" thread. :-)
Ryan Lubke wrote:
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On 9/7/09 6:06 PM, Andy Schwartz wrote:
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Thanks Lincoln. I haven't had time to debug this, but I have a theory
about what might be happening. In your sample:
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<pre wrap=""><a:editText value="#{cc.attrs.task.text}"
rendered="#{!cc.attrs.disabled}">
*<f:actionListener for="submit"
action="#{taskController.saveTaskAjax(cc.attrs.story, cc.attrs.task)}" /> *
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We expect "cc" to resolve to the containing composite component (ie. to
the <socialpm:taskBlock> component). I wouldn't be surprised if what is
actually happening is that "cc" is being resolved to the <a:editText>
composite component instead.
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Yep, that's what is happening.
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One reason why I suspect this might be happening is that I know that
Ryan has investigated/resolved similar problems not too long ago.
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The problem we resolved was the passing of #{cc.attrs} attributes between
nested composite components.
For this case, the spec recommends using cc.parent.attrs.story and
cc.parent.attrs.task, where parent resolves
to the nearest composite component parent of the current composite
component.
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I am concerned about this behavior. It isn't clear to me whether the spec
is explicit about this behavior, or whether this is something that happens
to fall out of the implementation. Either way, the current behavior seems
counterintuitive to me, and, well... wrong.
My feeling is that when a composite component author uses a #{cc}
expression in a composite component implementation, eg:
<composite:implementation>
<h:outputText value="#{cc.attrs.value}">
</composite:implementation>
The correct behavior (the behavior expected by the composite component
author) is to resolve the #{cc} expression relative to where the expression
is defined - not relative to where it happens to end up in the component
tree. So, for example, I believe that these three uses of the
#{cc.attrs.value} expression should all evaluate to the same value:
<composite:implementation>
<!-- 1. Expression directly in the implementation -->
<h:outputText value="#{cc.attrs.value}">
<!-- 2. Expression in non-composite component facet -->
<bar:someJavaComposite>
<f:facet name="someFacet">
<h:outputText value="#{cc.attrs.value}">
</f:facet>
</bar:someJavaComponent>
<!-- 3. Expression in composite component facet -->
<foo:someCompositeComponent>
<f:facet name="someFacet">
<h:outputText value="#{cc.attrs.value}">
</f:facet>
</foo:someCompositeComponent>
</composite:implementation>
The fact that the #{cc.attrs.value} expression evaluates the same in cases
#1 and #2 but not in case #3 is non-obvious and is going to be confusing for
our users. The fact that Lincoln and I were confused about this is a good
indication that others will be as well.
I am not happy with the work around of using #cc.parent.attrs, since this
means that:
1. The user must recognize that the component in question is a composite
component and code the expression differently. While at the moment it is
fairly easy to determine whether a particular component is a composite or
not (by looking at the namespace declaration), I think that we should strive
to blur these lines rather than reinforce them. For example, I would like
to see the ability to define a single tag library that consists of both
composite and non-composite components, making the choice of component
implementation more transparent to the user.
2. Once the user has coded the expression in a composite
component-specific way, this introduces a dependency on the fact that the
component in question is a composite component - a dependency that shouldn't
be necessary for this particular case. Such dependencies inhibit
flexibility. If in the future the provider of the composite component
decides to switch to a Java-based component, this will break any code (or EL
expression) that assumes that the component is a composite. We should keep
such dependencies to a minimum.
3. This also introduces a subtle dependency on the composite component's
implementation. What if the composite component implementation passes the
expression along to yet another nested composite component? Does the user
now need to specify an expression that pops out multiple levels of parents?
While it is certainly trickier to deal with from an implementation
perspective, I believe that it is very important that we re-consider the
current behavior and consider spec'ing that #{cc} expressions always resolve
relative to the context in which they are defined. I feel that the current
behavior violates the principle of least surprise (both Lincoln and I were
surprised) and also breaks encapsulation (ie. introduces
implementation-specific dependencies).
Leaving aside questions of how we might implement my preferred behavior
for the moment... Does anyone have comments on which behavior makes sense
from a spec/end user perspective?
Andy
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