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Thanks for the response Dan. I look forward to seeing the proposal. :)<br>
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Ken<br>
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Dan Allen wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I read through it quickly, still planning
on a deeper
analysis later.<br>
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One thing I have to say is "view actions". I wanted them badly in JSF
2.0 and now Lincoln has done a great job of presenting to a good
portion of this expert group why they are useful (in his PrettyFaces
talk). Once again, we see it in this article.<br>
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Hi Dan,<br>
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I didn't see this talk (although I should watch it, I keep hearing it
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Sadly there is no video. But I'm going to make sure we capture the
audio the next time Lincoln presents it. I believe he is putting
together a blog entry about it in a couple of weeks.<br>
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what "view actions" are? Looking
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do you mean point #4 in the
Feature list? If yes, then I think JSF2 is already very close with our
f:event tag, for example: <f:event type="beforeEncode" ...>.<br>
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I think the best approach here is for us to simply work up our
proposal. If I start explaining what is different, then I'll be saying
the same thing in the proposal, but with an ad-hoc response.<br>
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Only problem is we didn't spend time defining the appropriate events
(like beforeEncode) for JSF 2.0 (unless I missed that). I did suggest
some at one point based on what I have in JSFT.<br>
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There is a BeforeRenderEvent for both the view (preRenderView) and
component (beforeRender). Again, we'll cite those in the proposal.<br>
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I should also mention that Andy Schwartz has also been an advocate of
the view action idea and will likely be working with Lincoln and I to
whip up the proposal. I'll try to get that out as soon as I can. Thanks
for being patient ;)<br>
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-Dan<br>
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