I see your point, agreed. I think what I was really going for was extendability. But, I like the
idea of pushing this into the container, plus what's been asked for on
the JCP forums will go a long way to achieving that goal of extendability (User ProjectStages). I do have one
question about that though:<br>
<br>I've been hearing "appserver", but would the "Java EE Umbrella
Spec" be enough to bring this behavior to servlet containers? The last
thing we want is to create another thing that appservers provide, that
servlet containers do not. We still need ProjectStage to make it into
the Servlet spec, explicitly, in order to bridge that gap, right? Is
that an accurate assumption?<br><font color="#888888">
<br>--Lincoln<br></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Jim Driscoll <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Jim.Driscoll@sun.com">Jim.Driscoll@sun.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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On 1/6/10 2:57 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:<br>
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I'd like to understand a little more about the objections to runtime<br>
modification. I agree in that I don't think it would add much value, but<br>
is the opposition of a technical difficulty or practical/philosophical<br>
nature? I'd like to learn why people feel this way. Is it more of "it<br>
goes against the intentended usage of ProjectStage" or more of "it would<br>
be too hard for too little value?" Or something else?<br>
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Just for my benefit. Thanks!<br>
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I believe it's more a matter of "too hard for too little value". Not that it's all *that* hard (AFAIK) - but it's annoying enough of a change that I'd like to see at least one compelling usecase before supporting it. It also may have a (slight) overhead cost, which in Production stage is a good argument against it.<br>
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Jim<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Lincoln Baxter, III<br><a href="http://ocpsoft.com">http://ocpsoft.com</a><br><a href="http://scrumshark.com">http://scrumshark.com</a><br>"Keep it Simple"<br>