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Hey, Werner, Ed. :) I've done a fair amount of work with JMX, though
I'm no expert. I use it indirectly on the GlassFish Admin Console,
after a fashion, and Ryan and I did a little work with JMX extensions
to Mojarra that died on the vine due to lack of time. I'm still trying
to get caught up from being out on vacation, but I'll try to find some
time to read over your proposal and see if I have any thoughts
regarding that and JMX, such as they may be. :)<br>
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On 3/25/10 5:41 AM, Werner Punz wrote:
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WP> Btw. my personal opinion regarding all this is that this should
be<br>
WP> solved in a special spec which frameworks can attach to. After
all<br>
WP> the entire configuration change aspect is not only JSF specific
but<br>
WP> goes way depper into every framework.<br>
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WP> But I guess someone has to do the first step before an umbrella
jsr<br>
WP> spanning all JEE frameworks is opened :-)<br>
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Yes, that's certainly true. In fact, there's a time honored tradition<br>
of JSF being an important place where innovation enters the platform.<br>
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This is a very thorough proposal, Werner. Thanks for preparing it.<br>
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I'd like to see this API done in terms of existing APIS, such as the<br>
java.lang.management MBeans [1]. Is it possible we can use JMX rather<br>
than introducing a new API?<br>
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Ed<br>
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<div>I assume so, I just had a quick look at it, it sounds very sane
to use it, since<br>
it is part of the JDK since 5 so we are save to be able to run it in
any context.<br>
Secondly it deals with configuration singletons anyway, and<br>
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seems to be able to handle get,insert,delete,update usecases.<br>
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But I am by far no expert in that part of the java API (I always
skipped it for not having<br>
ever used it in my life, I just knew it existed)<br>
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So can anyone with more insight can elaborate if we can reuse it?<br>
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Werner<br>
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