[keycloak-dev] AS7 subsystem problems Re: release? Stan?

[Stian Thorgersen]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marek Posolda" <mposolda at redhat.com>
> To: "Stian Thorgersen" <stian at redhat.com>, "Stan Silvert" <ssilvert at redhat.com>
> Cc: keycloak-dev at lists.jboss.org
> Sent: Thursday, 4 December, 2014 2:12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [keycloak-dev] AS7 subsystem problems Re:  release?  Stan?
> 
> On 4.12.2014 13:48, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Stan Silvert" <ssilvert at redhat.com>
> >> To: "Stian Thorgersen" <stian at redhat.com>
> >> Cc: keycloak-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 December, 2014 1:39:09 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [keycloak-dev] AS7 subsystem problems Re:  release?  Stan?
> >>
> >> On 12/4/2014 7:32 AM, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Stan Silvert" <ssilvert at redhat.com>
> >>>> To: keycloak-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 4 December, 2014 1:27:11 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [keycloak-dev] AS7 subsystem problems Re:  release?  Stan?
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/4/2014 2:54 AM, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Bill Burke" <bburke at redhat.com>
> >>>>>> To: keycloak-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 December, 2014 8:23:55 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [keycloak-dev] AS7 subsystem problems Re:  release?
> >>>>>> Stan?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 12/3/2014 12:30 PM, Stan Silvert wrote:
> >>>>>>> 1) Bring back the old code for the AS7 subsystem.
> >>>>>> Bring it back.  If you don't, let me know and I'll do it.
> >>>>> Why? I don't get why we keep trying to get AS7 to work. We've already
> >>>>> wasted a fair bit of time on this.
> >>>> To me, it's not really a matter of getting it to work.  I've restored
> >>>> the old code and I just need to test everything out today. There is no
> >>>> reason to think it won't work as before.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only question in my mind is whether or not anyone will want to use
> >>>> it.  I guess there is not that much incremental cost in maintaining the
> >>>> old code.  As I understand it, Bill's overriding strategy is to support
> >>>> every platform possible.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've already changed course on this a couple of times, so I'd like to
> >>>> just finish and move on.
> >>> Sure, I just want a reason to continue supporting AS7 though as it does
> >>> come back to haunt us every once in a while.
> >>>
> >>> JPA issues, web-services issues, sub-system issues, etc.. By now we've
> >>> probably spent a few days at least this year on an outdated platform.
> >> Perhaps dropping auth server support will help with that?  What I'm
> >> doing now only affects AS7 client apps.
> > Yes, IMO we should definitively drop auth server support on AS7.
> >
> > With regards to client support, IMO we should drop support for AS7
> > completely, but at very least the subsystem and just require including the
> > adapter in the WAR like we do for Tomcat, Jetty, etc...
> I wonder if we should provide something like download with "generic"
> auth-server.war, which will be able to run on all servers like AS7,
> Tomcat or Jetty. It seems to me that having auth-server running on
> Tomcat or Jetty won't be so much headache. It may just be about bundling
> all required deps like resteasy, jackson etc in
> auth-server.war/WEB-INF/lib/ .
> 
> Having auth-server available on Tomcat or Jetty might be useful as we
> have adapters for them already, so people won't need to use separate
> Tomcat/Jetty server with  their apps and separate Wildfly/EAP6 with
> auth-server, but they can have everything on single server. It may be
> also useful for Fuse integration (it's still unclear to me how deep
> should be fuse integration and if keycloak integration/adapters is
> enabled just on demand or by default, but having possibility to have
> auth-server deployed in fuse might be helpful with the decision as then
> fuse won't require separate KC server running on WF or EAP)
> 
> Hopefully we will be able to have same auth-server.war running on AS7/
> JEtty and Tomcat with all dependencies inside and without
> jboss-deployment-structure.xml (we already have some needed changes in
> jboss-deployment-structure.xml for AS7 -
> http://docs.jboss.org/keycloak/docs/1.1.0.Beta1/userguide/html/server-installation.html#as7-specifics
> . So having separate WAR without jboss-deployment-structure.xml may help
> to avoid this and have AS7 integration even simpler)

Tomcat and Jetty are actually much simpler, just chuck all deps into WEB-INF/lib and away you go. Problem with AS7 is that it adds all sorts of conflicting dependencies automatically and it doesn't have an easy way to exclude them as exclude-subsystem in jboss-deployment-structure.xml isn't available on AS7, which results in finding workarounds for all sorts of problems.

> 
> Marek
> >
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