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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Btv. Stan, is your work going to be
      added into 1.6 or is it for next release? I am just asking because
      there is one pending PR, which is likely going to be merged for
      1.6 - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/keycloak/keycloak/pull/1656/files">https://github.com/keycloak/keycloak/pull/1656/files</a> . After
      merging this, we discussed with Stian some additional minor
      changes (namely removing "zip" export/import provider as nobody
      doesn't seem to be using it so far). I should also doublecheck
      that import still works after those changes.<br>
      <br>
      I am going to look at this likely next week and it's going to be
      included in 1.6. I am asking as I don't want to edit same code
      like you and break something you're working on <span
        class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-) </span></span><br>
      <br>
      Marek<br>
      <br>
      On 05/10/15 20:33, Stan Silvert wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/5/2015 2:26 PM, Thomas Raehalme
        wrote:<br>
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        <p dir="ltr"><br>
          On Oct 5, 2015 21:24, "Bill Burke" &lt;<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bburke@redhat.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bburke@redhat.com">bburke@redhat.com</a></a>&gt;

          wrote:<br>
          &gt;<br>
          &gt; I'm still averse to allowing export from admin console of
          any<br>
          &gt; credentials or private keys.</p>
        <p dir="ltr">Even if they are not directly downloadable but
          require access to the server just like now?<br>
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      I think there should be no secrets ever downloadable from admin
      console.  Admin console is, by definition, remote.<br>
      <br>
      If you have access to the server then you can use what is there
      now.<br>
      <br>
      It is possible, however, that when we do our CLI implementation we
      can verify that the user is local and allow full access.  That
      way, you could do full export on a running server.  WildFly CLI
      already has logic to verify a user is local.<br>
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        <p dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
          &gt; On 10/5/2015 2:02 PM, Stan Silvert wrote:<br>
          &gt; &gt; I'm actually starting on the design and
          implementation of this right<br>
          &gt; &gt; now.  It's import/export from the admin console.  It
          will also have the<br>
          &gt; &gt; ability to import/export partial pieces of a realm
          such as just users.<br>
          &gt; &gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt; Thanks for the comments so far on this thread.  They
          have been very helpful.<br>
          &gt; &gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt; We will keep the idea that no secrets should ever be
          exported from admin<br>
          &gt; &gt; console.  I'm not sure that having a flag for it in
          keycloak-server.json<br>
          &gt; &gt; helps.  To edit keycloak-server.json, you need
          access to the server, in<br>
          &gt; &gt; which case you might as well do the current
          import/export.<br>
          &gt; &gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt; So what do you do after you import a user with no
          credentials? Some ideas:<br>
          &gt; &gt; * The administrator can reset the password manually.<br>
          &gt; &gt; * The user can do password recovery (if enabled)<br>
          &gt; &gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt; An other ideas?<br>
          &gt; &gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt; Stan<br>
          &gt; &gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt; On 10/5/2015 12:34 PM, Tim Dudgeon wrote:<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt; That's a good point. Having to stop/start the
          server to generate an<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt; export is not ideal.<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt; Tim<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt; On 05/10/2015 11:56, Thomas Raehalme wrote:<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 2:47 AM, Bill Burke
          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bburke@redhat.com">bburke@redhat.com</a><br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:bburke@redhat.com">bburke@redhat.com</a>&gt;&gt;

          wrote:<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;     On 10/4/2015 5:37 PM, Thomas Raehalme
          wrote:<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;         On Oct 4, 2015 23:57, "Bill Burke"
          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bburke@redhat.com">bburke@redhat.com</a><br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;         &lt;mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:bburke@redhat.com">bburke@redhat.com</a>
          &lt;mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:bburke@redhat.com">bburke@redhat.com</a>&gt;&gt;&gt;

          wrote:<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;          &gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;          &gt; For security reasons we did
          not want to have a remote<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;         option to export.<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; How about just storing the export as a local
          file on the server?<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; You'd need access to the server in order to
          get the file (making the<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; system compromised anyways). The change to
          current behaviour is that<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; you would be able to trigger the export at
          will without server restart.<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Best regards,<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
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          &gt; &gt;<br>
          &gt;<br>
          &gt; --<br>
          &gt; Bill Burke<br>
          &gt; JBoss, a division of Red Hat<br>
          &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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