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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yeah, information is available. Problem
is that it's ignored <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><br>
<br>
Both admin console and account management are just using
"user.hasRole" when asking if user is member of particular role.
This returns false for the role mappings, which are available
indirectly through groups.<br>
<br>
Marek<br>
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On 04/05/16 16:50, Bill Burke wrote:<br>
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<p>This was by design. Since the information is available to
these built-in applications, it seemed that much safer to ignore
the token permissions.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/4/2016 10:43 AM, Marek Posolda
wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Just tested the scenario and I
confirm there is an issue. It would work for all your external
applications, as roles, which are indirectly assigned to user
through group mappings, are correctly available inside
accessToken. However Keycloak builtin applications (admin
console and account management) doesn't read roles from the
token, hence it doesn't work there. I've created JIRA for:<br>
admin console: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-2969">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-2969</a><br>
account management: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-2970">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-2970</a><br>
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Marek<br>
<br>
On 02/05/16 22:33, Jason Axley wrote:<br>
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<div>I have an LDAP user who is definitely listed as being in
a given LDAP group in Keycloak admin console.</div>
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<div>If I grant the User the admin Realm Role in the master
realm, they can login and access the admin console for the
master realm. </div>
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<div>However, if I remove the direct role grant from the user
and add it to the LDAP group, keycloak doesn’t think the
user has the role and gives an error that the user “<span
style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Open Sans',
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; widows: 1;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">You don't have
access to the requested resource.</span>” with the below
exception:</div>
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<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">2016-05-02
20:25:37,677 ERROR
[org.jboss.resteasy.resteasy_jaxrs.i18n] (default
task-2) RESTEASY002005: Failed executing GET
/admin/serverinfo:
org.keycloak.services.ForbiddenException</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.keycloak.services.resources.admin.AdminRoot.getServerInfo(AdminRoot.java:231)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native
Method)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:483)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.jboss.resteasy.core.ResourceLocatorInvoker.createResource(ResourceLocatorInvoker.java:79)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.jboss.resteasy.core.ResourceLocatorInvoker.createResource(ResourceLocatorInvoker.java:58)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.jboss.resteasy.core.ResourceLocatorInvoker.invoke(ResourceLocatorInvoker.java:100)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.jboss.resteasy.core.SynchronousDispatcher.invoke(SynchronousDispatcher.java:395)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.jboss.resteasy.core.SynchronousDispatcher.invoke(SynchronousDispatcher.java:202)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.server.servlet.ServletContainerDispatcher.service(ServletContainerDispatcher.java:221)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.server.servlet.HttpServletDispatcher.service(HttpServletDispatcher.java:56)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.server.servlet.HttpServletDispatcher.service(HttpServletDispatcher.java:51)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:790)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.ServletHandler.handleRequest(ServletHandler.java:85)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.FilterHandler$FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterHandler.java:129)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.keycloak.services.filters.KeycloakSessionServletFilter.doFilter(KeycloakSessionServletFilter.java:78)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.core.ManagedFilter.doFilter(ManagedFilter.java:60)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.FilterHandler$FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterHandler.java:131)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.FilterHandler.handleRequest(FilterHandler.java:84)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.security.ServletSecurityRoleHandler.handleRequest(ServletSecurityRoleHandler.java:62)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.ServletDispatchingHandler.handleRequest(ServletDispatchingHandler.java:36)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.wildfly.extension.undertow.security.SecurityContextAssociationHandler.handleRequest(SecurityContextAssociationHandler.java:78)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.server.handlers.PredicateHandler.handleRequest(PredicateHandler.java:43)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.security.SSLInformationAssociationHandler.handleRequest(SSLInformationAssociationHandler.java:131)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.security.ServletAuthenticationCallHandler.handleRequest(ServletAuthenticationCallHandler.java:57)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.server.handlers.PredicateHandler.handleRequest(PredicateHandler.java:43)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.security.handlers.AbstractConfidentialityHandler.handleRequest(AbstractConfidentialityHandler.java:46)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.security.ServletConfidentialityConstraintHandler.handleRequest(ServletConfidentialityConstraintHandler.java:64)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.security.handlers.AuthenticationMechanismsHandler.handleRequest(AuthenticationMechanismsHandler.java:60)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.security.CachedAuthenticatedSessionHandler.handleRequest(CachedAuthenticatedSessionHandler.java:77)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.security.handlers.NotificationReceiverHandler.handleRequest(NotificationReceiverHandler.java:50)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.security.handlers.AbstractSecurityContextAssociationHandler.handleRequest(AbstractSecurityContextAssociationHandler.java:43)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.server.handlers.PredicateHandler.handleRequest(PredicateHandler.java:43)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
org.wildfly.extension.undertow.security.jacc.JACCContextIdHandler.handleRequest(JACCContextIdHandler.java:61)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.server.handlers.PredicateHandler.handleRequest(PredicateHandler.java:43)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.server.handlers.PredicateHandler.handleRequest(PredicateHandler.java:43)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.ServletInitialHandler.handleFirstRequest(ServletInitialHandler.java:284)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.ServletInitialHandler.dispatchRequest(ServletInitialHandler.java:263)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.ServletInitialHandler.access$000(ServletInitialHandler.java:81)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.servlet.handlers.ServletInitialHandler$1.handleRequest(ServletInitialHandler.java:174)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.server.Connectors.executeRootHandler(Connectors.java:202)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
io.undertow.server.HttpServerExchange$1.run(HttpServerExchange.java:793)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>at
java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 14px;"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"></span><br>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal;
font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 14px;"> <span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"></span></p>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is there something magical that needs to be configured
for this to work? Or does this look like a bug?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I also did a quick test where I created a new local group
and did the same role assignment to the group, and assigned
the group to the same LDAP user and it did not grant access.</div>
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</div>
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<div>-Jason</div>
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