From paul.ferraro at redhat.com  Thu Mar  9 11:58:45 2017
From: paul.ferraro at redhat.com (Paul Ferraro)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 11:58:45 -0500
Subject: [mod_cluster-dev] Proposal for new project name
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In an effort to revitalize this thread, I have a new idea for a project name:

Charybdis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charybdis

TESS search indicates only 1 registration which expired in 2006.
I think the name is perfect.  charybdis.io/org are all available.

Thoughts?

Paul

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Karm Michal Babacek
<karm at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> I kinda like the FloodTide name.
>
> I'm willing to lend a hand with httpd modules (native part) and
> porting docs, based off http://modcluster.io setup, content and tutorials.
> I'm also the maintainer of mod_cluster in Fedora, the package that would
> be affected.
>
> Disclaimer:
>  I'm bound to say that my effort is a community, voluntary one,
>  unrelated to my current work assignments at Red Hat.
>
>
> Lemme start throwing questions:
>
>  * How do we refer to Undertow mod_cluster proxy implementation?
>    Undertow FloodTide proxy? (indeed, any other name)
>
>  * Are we going to get in touch with George Fleury who did mod_cluster for Nginx?
>    Shouldn't we find engineering resources to build on current Nginx work (LGPL),
>    rename it, update it, test it?
>
>  * Could we seize the opportunity renaming brings and dedicate
>    more Red Hat resources to the "reborn" project? The TO DO list is endless.
>
>
> Cheers
> -K-
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Ferraro" <paul.ferraro at redhat.com>
>> To: "mod cluster" <mod_cluster-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 4:13:46 AM
>> Subject: [mod_cluster-dev] Proposal for new project name
>>
>> Since the advent of Stuart's Undertow-based mod_cluster
>> implementation, we've discussed the need to rename the "mod_cluster"
>> project to better differentiate the general technology/protocol from
>> its origin as an Apache httpd module.  Trivial stuff like this never
>> feels urgent, but given that we've started a 2.x branch of the source
>> code, if we're ever going to change the name, we should do it soon.
>> This email is meant to formally start this discussion.
>>
>> Personally, I would love to see the a new name loosely associated with
>> the word Undertow, ideally with a similar irony (i.e. undertow is
>> generally considered dangerous).
>>
>> Here are some ideas for names, in the spirit of ocean/water-related
>> phenomena:
>> * OverDrive (a literal antonym of Under+Tow)
>> * Overwash (the flow of water and sediment over a coastal dune or
>> beach crest during storm events)
>> * Backrush (the return of water seaward, down the foreshore of a
>> beach, following the uprush of a wave, i.e. the cause of an undertow)
>> * Uprush (a sudden upward surge or flow)
>> * FloodTide (Period when tide level is rising)
>> * TidalBore (a large wave caused by the funneling of a flood tide as
>> it enters a long, narrow, shallow inlet)
>> * TidalJet (fast-moving intrusion of water issuing from a narrow gap
>> through a physical barrier between two bodies of water)
>> * Upwell (to flow upward)
>> * RogueWave (exactly what it sounds like)
>> * Maelstrom (a powerful whirlpool in a sea or river)
>> * Levada (a portuguese aqueduct)
>> * Deluge (downpour of rain causing a flood)
>> * Diluviant (one who pertains to a flood)
>> * Gilgamesh/Bilgamesh (from the Epic of Gilgamesh, an ancient Sumerian
>> story describing one of the oldest great flood mythologies)
>>
>> Of the above, my personal favorites are "Diluviant" and "Maelstrom".
>> Thoughts?  Any other ideas?
>>
>> Paul
>> _______________________________________________
>> mod_cluster-dev mailing list
>> mod_cluster-dev at lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_cluster-dev
>>
>
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>
> --
> Michal Karm Babacek
> Fedora community
>
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> ? http://modcluster.io ? karm at fedoraproject.org


From karm at fedoraproject.org  Fri Mar 10 12:48:26 2017
From: karm at fedoraproject.org (Karm Michal Babacek)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 12:48:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [mod_cluster-dev] Proposal for new project name
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Ferraro" <paul.ferraro at redhat.com>
> To: "mod cluster" <mod_cluster-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 5:58:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [mod_cluster-dev] Proposal for new project name
> 
> In an effort to revitalize this thread, I have a new idea for a project name:
> 
> Charybdis
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charybdis
> 
> TESS search indicates only 1 registration which expired in 2006.
> I think the name is perfect.  charybdis.io/org are all available.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 

In my opinion, any such renaming would kill
the traction the project has left.

The worst case would be if just the WF subsystem
is renamed, but all other packages and distributions
and web pages and docs and third party (Nginx)
modules remain the same. People would never connect
these. There is nobody to take on the renaming as
a whole project.


I do not think renaming the project could be done
right, under the current circumstances.


Karm


> Paul
> 
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Karm Michal Babacek
> <karm at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> > I kinda like the FloodTide name.
> >
> > I'm willing to lend a hand with httpd modules (native part) and
> > porting docs, based off http://modcluster.io setup, content and tutorials.
> > I'm also the maintainer of mod_cluster in Fedora, the package that would
> > be affected.
> >
> > Disclaimer:
> >  I'm bound to say that my effort is a community, voluntary one,
> >  unrelated to my current work assignments at Red Hat.
> >
> >
> > Lemme start throwing questions:
> >
> >  * How do we refer to Undertow mod_cluster proxy implementation?
> >    Undertow FloodTide proxy? (indeed, any other name)
> >
> >  * Are we going to get in touch with George Fleury who did mod_cluster for
> >  Nginx?
> >    Shouldn't we find engineering resources to build on current Nginx work
> >    (LGPL),
> >    rename it, update it, test it?
> >
> >  * Could we seize the opportunity renaming brings and dedicate
> >    more Red Hat resources to the "reborn" project? The TO DO list is
> >    endless.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > -K-
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Paul Ferraro" <paul.ferraro at redhat.com>
> >> To: "mod cluster" <mod_cluster-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 4:13:46 AM
> >> Subject: [mod_cluster-dev] Proposal for new project name
> >>
> >> Since the advent of Stuart's Undertow-based mod_cluster
> >> implementation, we've discussed the need to rename the "mod_cluster"
> >> project to better differentiate the general technology/protocol from
> >> its origin as an Apache httpd module.  Trivial stuff like this never
> >> feels urgent, but given that we've started a 2.x branch of the source
> >> code, if we're ever going to change the name, we should do it soon.
> >> This email is meant to formally start this discussion.
> >>
> >> Personally, I would love to see the a new name loosely associated with
> >> the word Undertow, ideally with a similar irony (i.e. undertow is
> >> generally considered dangerous).
> >>
> >> Here are some ideas for names, in the spirit of ocean/water-related
> >> phenomena:
> >> * OverDrive (a literal antonym of Under+Tow)
> >> * Overwash (the flow of water and sediment over a coastal dune or
> >> beach crest during storm events)
> >> * Backrush (the return of water seaward, down the foreshore of a
> >> beach, following the uprush of a wave, i.e. the cause of an undertow)
> >> * Uprush (a sudden upward surge or flow)
> >> * FloodTide (Period when tide level is rising)
> >> * TidalBore (a large wave caused by the funneling of a flood tide as
> >> it enters a long, narrow, shallow inlet)
> >> * TidalJet (fast-moving intrusion of water issuing from a narrow gap
> >> through a physical barrier between two bodies of water)
> >> * Upwell (to flow upward)
> >> * RogueWave (exactly what it sounds like)
> >> * Maelstrom (a powerful whirlpool in a sea or river)
> >> * Levada (a portuguese aqueduct)
> >> * Deluge (downpour of rain causing a flood)
> >> * Diluviant (one who pertains to a flood)
> >> * Gilgamesh/Bilgamesh (from the Epic of Gilgamesh, an ancient Sumerian
> >> story describing one of the oldest great flood mythologies)
> >>
> >> Of the above, my personal favorites are "Diluviant" and "Maelstrom".
> >> Thoughts?  Any other ideas?
> >>
> >> Paul
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> mod_cluster-dev mailing list
> >> mod_cluster-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_cluster-dev
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Sent from my Hosaka Ono-Sendai Cyberspace 7
> >
> > --
> > Michal Karm Babacek
> > Fedora community
> >
> > freenode: #wildfly #mod_cluster #fedora-devel
> > ? http://modcluster.io ? karm at fedoraproject.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> mod_cluster-dev mailing list
> mod_cluster-dev at lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_cluster-dev

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