[rules-dev] need advice re null handling

Tom Gonzalez tomgon at nortel.com
Thu Mar 15 13:03:17 EDT 2007


We handle it as it can't be anything else but null cause null is
returned when an access fails or some error occurs. This keeps it from
falling into a valid evaluation and possibly a subtle bug going
uncaught.
 
Tom G

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[mailto:rules-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Mark Proctor
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [rules-dev] need advice re null handling


Its not about giving it up, its how we handle when those fields are
null, do we treat it like a primitive and assume its 0, or do we say it
can't be equal to anything else but null.

In the following example neither y or z is defined, thus y is null and z
is 0;

int x = 0;
Integer y;
in z;
x == y // is false;
x == z // is true
y == null // is true

Mark

Tom Gonzalez wrote: 

	The flexibility provided by an Object is very valuable. We use
Integer and String objects all over the place today in our facts with
drools. I would hate to give it up.
	 
	Tom G

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[mailto:rules-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Mark Proctor
	Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:29 AM
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	Subject: Re: [rules-dev] need advice re null handling
	
	
	if bar is an integer it will be 0, if its an Integer it will be
null. The Q is do we make Integer work like the primitive, or do we make
it work like an Object.
	
	Mark
	Michael Neale wrote: 

		http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-627
		
		OK, this much is clear: 
		
		Foo(field == null) can be true if field is null.
		
		but, what about Foo(field > 3), and field is null?
should that be false? what about Foo(field != 3) - should that be true? 
		
		in SQL, null will always result in a false condition,
unless you explicitly use null.
		
		Thoughts? 
		
		Michael.
		
		
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